Balance?

[eagles123]

[hv=pc=n&e=shakt8dt53ct98532&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2spp]133|200[/hv]

 

2s weak MP

 

thanks

 

Eagles

[paulg]

I'd double although I might hide behind the sofa until dummy is exposed. At least I have two solid tricks and the hand with shortage is normally the one to stretch. Would not criticise pass.

[gszes]

It may be the case that the only way we can get a positive score on this hand

is to set the opps in 2s. The problem is p needs to contribute four tricks to that

effort and that is a LOT for a hand that passed over 2s. No matter what we try there

is little we can do to keep CHO from bidding more and that is the real problem (if

p does not wish to convert a x to penalty that is).

 

It is MP and it is only 1 board but try and picture the whole hand before taking

action and you will most likely

 

PASS

 

quietly and save your balancing act for hands with a bit more stuff:)

[NickRW]

Eh. I think it depends on who I am partnering. Some CHOs inevitably moan that "you're light" or "you didn't have 4 diamonds" or whatever. With those I am passing, not because they criticise per se, but because they're close to being right here and because life is too short. With some partners who appreciate stretching the fabric of the universe is fun sometimes, I think I'm up for it.

[ggwhiz]

3♣ here and I have an understanding partner.

 

Unless they have extreme spade length they are marked with decent values. Double shows the real goods in my partnership so I can't do that.

[ArtK78]

I would bid 3♣. I hope partner does not hang me (I can already hear the 3NT bid coming).

 

It is my preferred style that direct actions over preempts show sound hands. Partner, with spades, may have significant values. Perhaps he was hoping for a reopening double. My hand does not want to defend.

[mycroft]

Almost certainly partner has 5 spades; most people are playing LOTT RONF raises of preempts these days. One of two cases applies here:

 

- we need to make a good score because we have game (partner's spades are not-much-wasted, and we can run clubs in 3NT or 4♥ or make 5♣; or partner's spades are huge and there are a lot of 800s)

- this is a trap, and a plus score is A+.

 

If the first case, we need to do something; the chance we're getting 800 out of this, even with the bad break is small (and the chance partner's passing a double is high); 3♣.

If the second case, we're in an A+ position already (okay, maybe we're +100 into +110 or +140, or -110 into -100, but partner's not going to let us out under game, are they?), and any call could convert A+ to bottom (or top, of course).

 

I think if the opponents are in the boat (as opposed to playing EHAA or multi with 2M nat very weak, or something), and we can assume this is a field auction, than we're more likely in the second case than the first. Partner needs controls for all his points for us to be making game, and either hard stoppers in spades (for 3NT) or nothing (for round suit games). Also, if we're wrong, we're not going to be wrong 100 a trick.

 

I'm taking my "plus", and apologizing if it's +300.

[Jinksy]

Pass for me. If P has good ♠s but can't find a 2N overcall, I can't see us missing game. Ditto if he has longish but poor ♠s and couldn't find an X.

[ochinko]

I may feel like a coward afterwards, but at least pass won't be a complete zero because of the field protection.

 

When cards tell me to something heroic, the signs are usually more clear.

[whereagles]

Pass. Doubling with a void usually means trouble and I'm not so strong as to think we might have a game here.

[monikrazy]

Double is a tad speculative, so maybe passing against pairs that bid conservatively is best. I still mostly think we owe our partner a double with this hand though.

 

I can imagine a lot of bad outcomes after bidding 3C, most notably partner putting us into NT expecting more from us. Given the quality of our clubs, double seems more descriptive anyway.

[kuhchung]

pass

[the_clown]

Very close but I would X. Second choice is pass.

 

I think 3♣ has 0 chance to win. If partner had a penalty pass against 2♠ he will bid 3N now possibly doubled. Even if we win 3N we would have gotten more against 2♠X.

 

If partner doesnt have a penalty pass RHO is very strong and will start doubling, we are probably not going to find our best fit.

[ArtK78]

The problem is that partner may have a penalty pass opposite a normal reopening double but may not beat 2♠x opposite my hand.

[wank]

if you double partner is likely to pass. if you're ok with that, double. if you would ***** yourself waiting to see dummy, pass. personally holding 1.75 tricks and no spades, so declarer can lead towards a modest doubleton in dummy, i would be terrified.

[PhilKing]

Double.

[ahydra]

Pass for me. Even in the balancing seat with a void I'd like a little more (say C2 -> CQ would swing it).

 

ahydra

[eagles123]

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still a reasonable MP score because declarer misplayed and went 2 off