My very bad bid

[Bbradley62]

I'd blame East for not opening in first seat.

 

PS: If your ♥10 had been the ♥J, would you have bid 2♥ over 1♠?

[Stephen Tu]

Although standard is that 2♥ strongly implies 6 and opener supposed to pass on a stiff, I think it's not unreasonable to play it as showing 5 and opener expected to pull with stiff. Purely for frequency reasons; one is dealt so many more 5 cd heart suits than 6 cds, and finding 5-3 and 5-2 fits in responder's suit tends to do well (weaker hand's long suit as trumps = usu good). But it's something I'd want to do only with discussion.

 

After all people do this over 2♣ rebid using Bart convention (though can show both 5 cd heart and 6cd heart over 2♣), so why not over 2♦? As a passed hand I think it's even better to do this as you cut out a ton of the weak 2 6cd heart hands even if there are some bad suits you wouldn't open.

[WellSpyder]

This is only a problem because 1NT is forcing as a passed hand!

While I agree that this probably isn't a very good agreement, I'm not sure I understand why it is responsible for the problem. How would the choice between 2♥ and 2♠ (or anything else) differ if partner didn't have to bid over 1NT? Or are you saying you would not have bid 1NT without the agreement that it is F?

[Stephen Tu]

While I agree that this probably isn't a very good agreement, I'm not sure I understand why it is responsible for the problem. How would the choice between 2♥ and 2♠ (or anything else) differ if partner didn't have to bid over 1NT? Or are you saying you would not have bid 1NT without the agreement that it is F?

1nt being non-forcing makes 2♥ less attractive because it cuts out a bunch of hands of 5332 shape where hearts rates to do well.

[DAVDJ1]

Jacoby 2NT: 1S-2NT 4CL-4NT ending in 6S

[ggwhiz]

If we're not careful, we may set a BBO Forums record for the highest number of unanimous votes.

 

Edit: Seriously? Within an hour of my post someone voted for 2♥??

 

In my partnership I would (er could) bid 2♥ too. Opener is not supposed to pass with a stiff and it's a matchpoint oriented agreement. Granted with the actual major suits this is a clear 2♠ bid.

[danmathies]

this hand not worthy of any discussion. p has 2 suits so go back to spades. 2nt would show 10/11 any other bid means u cant trust p to play the hand and youd rather mastermind. deserve a dad result.

[GrahamJson]

Those who criticise 2H overstate their case. After a 1nt response a new suit at the 3 level should certainly be a good 6+ carder but 2h need only be 5 (a quick google will show several decent sites which agree on this). If opener has no fit he can remove. After all, what should you do with x AQJxx xxx Qxxx for example? Pass and possibly play in a 3-3 fit instead of 5-3 or 5-2?

 

To some extent it is a matter of style, but 2h showing 5+ makes sense to me.

[GrahamJson]

One other thing. Anyone who thinks that 2H is one of the worst bids ever can not have watched much BBO. I have seen plenty of;

 

Players pre-empting then bidding again opposite a passing partner.

Players making a TO double then getting highly excited on a minimum just because he has 4 card support for partner's one level response.

Making a one level response to a TO double despite holding 8+ points (this and the last one tend to cancel each other out).

Opening 2C and forcing to slam opposite a partner who has nothing but minimum bids.

 

Plus lots of cases where one partner makes a unilateral decision, such as pulling a penalty double, when they have already shown their hand and they know nothing about their partner's.