gordontd Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I find the use of "drooler" as a derogatory term unacceptable in polite company ...No doubt he'll avoid its use should he ever find himself in such company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I find the use of "drooler" as a derogatory term unacceptable in polite company ... And kicking East when he is down would be considered unacceptable in almost any company other than that of lawyers. I'll take my morality lecures from people more deserving of respect if that is OK by you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I'll take my morality lecures from people more deserving of respect if that is OK by you.Please avoid personal attacks like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I find the use of "drooler" as a derogatory term unacceptable in polite company ...I do not know whether the meaning is different in the US to the UK. I would not use it, as I think it is insulting to handicapped people, and particularly those with cerebral palsy. I recall Tiger Woods getting in hot water for saying: "But as soon as I got on the green I was a spaz." Apparently that has a different connotation in the US and the UK, so maybe we should give PhilKing the benefit of the doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I do not know whether the meaning is different in the US to the UK. I would not use it, as I think it is insulting to handicapped people, and particularly those with cerebral palsy. I recall Tiger Woods getting in hot water for saying: "But as soon as I got on the green I was a spaz." Apparently that has a different connotation in the US and the UK, so maybe we should give PhilKing the benefit of the doubt. The objection was correct, but the source was unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 There must be history among Gordon, PK, and pgPrice (whom I don't know) because his posts on this thread do not seem deserving of the venom. One thing I believe has been underaddressed is the acceptance by South -- the TD -- and the predictable litigious outcome. Seems as if South made sure there would be a problem beyond the insufficient bid. This should be AI to West, IMO, and bidding a sufficient 6H would be the only appropriate action by him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I do not know whether the meaning is different in the US to the UK. I would not use it, as I think it is insulting to handicapped people, and particularly those with cerebral palsy. I recall Tiger Woods getting in hot water for saying: "But as soon as I got on the green I was a spaz." Apparently that has a different connotation in the US and the UK, so maybe we should give PhilKing the benefit of the doubt. Not sure why the US is relevant. Aardv, pgrice, gordontd and philking are all English (or at least they are all living and playing in england). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrice Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 And kicking East when he is down would be considered unacceptable in almost any company other than that of lawyers. I'll take my morality lecures from people more deserving of respect if that is OK by you. Sadly not. I found myself in an situation I had not previously encountered … a slow insufficient bid … so I asked experienced players what they thought of the situation. As far as I was concerned the table result of 6H= was perfectly equitable and I had no real expectation of a ruling that would change that. Doesn't stop me from being interested in knowing if there is any case law for such occurrences or different methodology to be followed. If that is "lawyering" I'll put my hand up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 There must be history among Gordon, PK, and pgPrice (whom I don't know) because his posts on this thread do not seem deserving of the venom.No, no history. I was just trying to make a light-hearted comment to ease any venom. I must have failed. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Not sure why the US is relevant. Aardv, pgrice, gordontd and philking are all English (or at least they are all living and playing in england).I only know the last two of these, and I only commented on the second's post. I do not know him, nor was there anything in his profile, nor in aardv's profile to tell me where he played. I did know that barmar, who had stepped in, was from the US. Contributors to the thread seemed to be from both sides of the pond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 II did know that barmar, who had stepped in, was from the US.He's also an administrator here - for all of the BBO forums, not just the IBLF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I don't know what my nationality has to do with it. Does "deserving of respect" mean something different across the pond? That was the comment I was calling a personal attack. I took "drooler" to be slang for "idiot". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 A lot of the discussion regarding 7H being a LA seems really far-fetched. If East was really thinking of a grand, why on Earth would they make a bid that's not even forcing? While there are arguments that a non-6H bid must be a grand slam try (absent pick-a-slam like agreements), how many auctions are there where bidding the agreed trump suit at game level or higher is forcing? Not many. Now if we consider the fact that E/W are probably weak and don't have a lot of agreements... As to how I would rule, I would say that a slow 5H would just be trying to sign off in 6H rather than make a grand slam try, and rule that result stands since West had the AI that his 5S bid would normally have forced the partnership to 6H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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