Jinksy Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 [hv=pc=n&e=saht8dakt64ckt542&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=3hppdp4np6cp]133|200[/hv] IMP scoring. With no fancy gadgets available (or having been bypassed), except that 4N directly would have been Unusual. Now what? Would you have bid 4N before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Don't see how you can bid 7♣ now. partner could have singleton ♥. With void might have bid 5 ♥. plus partner likely to have wasted spade values Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'd bid 7 partner knows we didn't bid direct over 3h and we are pretty much max for our subsequent 4n bid and p has leapt to 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Inconceivable that partner could bid 6♣ missing a heart control. I am looking at two aces and the king of trump! So I take the plunge 7♣ and expect an early claim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 We have a superb hand in context, but my experience in situations like these is pard is overbidding. Opposite a conservative bidder, 7. Else stay fixed and pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted September 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 No comments on the first call so far, but exactly split vote! Are all the people voting aye to 7C now voting nay to 4N before and vice versa? Given that I chose not to bid 4N, I'd be interested to hear arguments for doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 No comments on the first call so far, but exactly split vote! Are all the people voting aye to 7C now voting nay to 4N before and vice versa? Given that I chose not to bid 4N, I'd be interested to hear arguments for doing so.I chose pass over 3♥, but consider it close. I did not want to commit to the 5 level, vulnerable, with LHO still unlimited and bad breaks looming in my suits. I would not be surprised if it is wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 I can take or leave an immediate 4n agree with bill that it's close. As for the worry about p having a heart loser or whatever what possible hand can he have? I'm just not seeing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 No comments on the first call so far, but exactly split vote! Are all the people voting aye to 7C now voting nay to 4N before and vice versa? Given that I chose not to bid 4N, I'd be interested to hear arguments for doing so. I wouldn't bid a direct 4NT. The hand is good but not so good to contract for 11 tricks "with a little help from my friend" (pard). Even with two useful cards from pard, we're still a trick off, so no 4NT for me. Having passed, the hand is just about golden for the context. It could have been a substantially weaker hand (x xx Axxxx Kxxxx) and yet pard drove to 6 practically on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Can partner have as little as ♠KQJx ♥x ♦QJx ♣AQJxx? Anyway, his jump to 6 suggests at least 2 aces, as there is no way he can expect us to have 2 first-round controls. I raise to 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvr bull Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Don't see how you can bid 7♣ now. partner could have singleton ♥. With void might have bid 5 ♥. plus partner likely to have wasted spade valuesI agree with this, and add that partner could have wasted ♥ values too. If I bid 7♣ and partner has KQJT KQ QJx AQJx, partner may not see the wisdom in my action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I agree with this, and add that partner could have wasted ♥ values too. If I bid 7♣ and partner has KQJT KQ QJx AQJx, partner may not see the wisdom in my action.Agree that slam auctions are difficult if partner is willing to bid 6 missing four keycards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 would love to see the full hand on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 There is an old rule, if partner bids slam and you have 3 keycards when you promised none you have to bid grand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted October 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 would love to see the full hand on this one I won't have access to it tip Monday by when I'll probably have forgotten, but if you remind me thereafter I'll fish it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 I would pass rather than bid 4NT first time. That is a wild overbid. I pass now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 There is an old rule, if partner bids slam and you have 3 keycards when you promised none you have to bid grand.Do you think you promised a yarborough with your 4NT advance to partner's double of 3H? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Is that the rule of Fluffy? If so maybe even 6 won't make. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 I think we'd bid the same way (P/4N) if you switch the SA to an x, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Both decisions are really close. I plumped for the conservative options of Pass and Pass - parner's 6C might be based on a double-fit, we can't guarantee the first-round heart control. Also we're playing IMPs which means we have team-mates who might get mad, as opposed to pairs where we don't :) ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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