how bid?

[lxt08]

[hv=pc=n&e=skt9ha5dajt95cjt4&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1dp]133|200[/hv]

 

now E bid:

if sys 2/1 how bid?

if sys sayc how bid?

[jillybean]

One of the first gadgets a bridge player needs is a way to force game of a minor opening.

The most common method is to play 'inverted minors' where 1m 2m is game forcing (in both sayc and 2/1).

2m usually denies a 4 card major, follow ups need to be discussed.

 

With no agreements you need to create a bid, 1♠ and jump to game over partners rebid.

[jogs]

You really need more imagination with your thread titles.

Without inverted minors it is nearly impossible to investigate slam without risking bypassing 3NT.

[the hog]

One of the first gadgets a bridge player needs is a way to force game of a minor opening.

The most common method is to play 'inverted minors' where 1m 2m is game forcing (in both sayc and 2/1).

2m usually denies a 4 card major, follow ups need to be discussed.

 

With no agreements you need to create a bid, 1♠ and jump to game over partners rebid.

 

Inverted minors are not forcing to game, Jilly.

[mcphee]

There are 2 methods using inverted minors, most employ the simple raise to show limit or more and follow ups should be discussed.So 1-2 limit +, jump to 3 weak. Criss Cross is the other where the simple raise is game forcing, which means to show limit values you would jump shift in the other minor and leaps to 3 remain weak. To me it makes lots of sense to have a forcing raise of a minor, after all you have one for a major.

 

You also find players bidding 2NT as non game forcing using 3N to show opening values 12-14 or 15.

[whereagles]

Playing inverted minors: 1♦-2♦

 

Not playing that you can bid 1♦-3NT. The alternative is a 2♣ bid, hoping stuff sorts out by itself.

[helene_t]

Playing sayc you have no forcing raise available. I would bid 2nt with this hand but in general the way to raise a minor suit with a strong hand is to start with the other minor. Unless you can make a splinter raise.

 

Playing 2/1 you need to know if you play inverted minors and if not, if 2nt is forcing. If unsure, bid 2c.

[Bbradley62]

Playing 2/1, this is a clear 1♦-2♦ inverted minor bid.

 

However, BBO has three pre-loaded convention cards that are labeled SAYC. They show different HCP strengths for NT bids over 1m:

_____________1m-2N____1m-3N

ACBL SAYC____13-15____16-17

SAYC_________13-15____16-18

SAYC (BBO)___11-12____13-15

 

So, it's important to know what your agreement is.