humilities Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Sectional swiss, average opponents. [hv=pc=n&s=skqjh32dakq65c654&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=p3h]133|200[/hv] I decided to pass this, though I was fairly sure they wouldn't pass at the other table (they didn't). Game may be unlikely, but the cost of missing game is high. Pass was right this time, but I'm not confident about it. Was I just lucky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 P being a passed hand makes a huge difference in the expected balanceof power as well as in the risk vs reward calculation. The RVR seems to have mainly 4 spades as the target for the great score chance and sincepartner has already passed at favorable the odds are they will need tohold exactly 5 spades in order to make 4s feasible. That's a pretty darnsmall target to hit. P average hand rates to be around 6 while lho rates to be around 11 sowe have a small target of 5 spades and p needs to be well above average togive us a real shot at game. Slim pickings with a fair amount of risk iflho turns out to be the one with well above average power. pass seems reasonable under these conditions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I will try double. No special confidence but I hate selling out to favorable preempts with good hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I will try double. No special confidence but I hate selling out to favorable preempts with good hands.You are not selling out by passing. On some occasions partner, even though he is a passed hand, will balance. It is clear that on those occasions it will be right to balance. There are others where it is right to be in the auction, but I suspect on balance your best action is to pass in direct seat. This is especially true if partner will open the bidding on any excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Pass was right this time, but I'm not confident about it. Was I just lucky?I think you were both right and lucky... Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Well, you might be cold for 3NT opposite a simple hand like AxxAxxxxxxxxx Not that game will be reached if you act, though... :) The answer to whether or not you're right passing would require a sim. Without one, my feeling is that pass is ok. I would probably do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 It is either pass or DBL. Any other call is pretty bad imho. It is easier to pass for those of us who opens very aggressively 1 level or preempts aggressively. But if your general style is very conservative at these colors, and we have a lot of players like this, then you are pretty much gambling with either action and this is another downside example of this style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 i double. don't need much from p to make 3nt. at this vulnerability it's far too big a position to take to pass imo, risk/reward, etc. on a bad day passers score -140 and score up with -600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 i double. don't need much from p to make 3nt. at this vulnerability it's far too big a position to take to pass imo. on a bad day passers score -140 and score up with -600. At least we can blame our teammates for being -600 instead of -100 if that happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 IMO passing is a joke. Partner may have Axxxx????(A/K)xx and game is good. Playing partner for 2 cards here is just normal bridge. Even if game is not there, on many hands both 3M will make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foobar Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Playing my preferred style (light openings), it's a relatively easy pass, but it might be a much tougher choice between P and X depending on partnership tendencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 VIP member has correctly said everything.I wish to add one more factor.One does not yet know what LHO hand is since his turn has to come still.Being vulnerable against not ,if you double ,you may be slaughtered for 800 plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Realatively easy pass for me as well. Put this as a problem opposite a non passed hand and it is much harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Opposite a nonpassed hand I would think it would be a pretty clear dbl. Not a dbl I would be happy with, but it would be clear that the alternatives are worse imo. Agree with pass here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump Echo Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 I would pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunling Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 I don't think a weak NT with 3 cards in the other major is worth a double at 3 level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillPatch Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 I don't think a weak NT with 3 cards in the other major is worth a double at 3 level.Edgar Kaplan would disapprove calling this a weak NT. It has 15.80 of his knr points. 14.99 knr points is a maximum weak NT in his book.knr = Kaplan @ Rubens points. edit: I agree with pass for the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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