uva72uva72 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 My link IMPS, ACBL robot individual I think this is the highest percentage contract I have ever failed in. Those who are better at calculating these things will doubtless be able to come up with a more exact figure, but I think that winning the ♦ lead in dummy and playing a trump toward declarer's hand immediately (intending to finesse against the Queen) offers better than a 98.5% chance of success. My thinking is that this line makes if: Diamonds are not 4-0 (meaning I can eventually ruff a club in dummy for trick 10) = 90.43%, orDiamonds are 4-0 but onside with ♥s and ♦s not breaking viciously = ~4.3% (a bit less than 50% of remaining 9.57%), orEither K or Q of ♦ is onside = ~3.3% (75% of remaining 5.27%), or♥Q is doubleton, or ?.?%, orClub/Heart Squeeze Operates ?.?% On the actual lie of the cards, I believe it works to play a ♣ to the 10 immediately, precluding East from drawing trumps before a ♣ can be ruffed in dummy. But is that a higher percentage line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uva72uva72 Posted August 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 My previous post should read "Either K or Q of ♣ is onside" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) You missed out the possibility of losing a spade finesse and then suffering a diamond ruff, which is about 0.5%. I wouldn't give much for the club-heart squeeze. In the ending you reached, you'd have to be very confident of your card-reading to play for East to have been squeezed. At tick two, what about playing ♣A, club? That appears to guarantee the contract unless they ruff ♣A or arrange a red-suit ruff. East passed in 3rd seat at favourable, so is unlikley to hold ♥Qxxxxx. Edited August 24, 2014 by gnasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 I think this is the highest percentage contract I have ever failed in. Since it's a robot tournament it's more about what the rest of the field are doing than about the success or failure of the contract, and by your off-centre opening you've ensured it's played the other way up than normal. I think playing it by South and getting a Gib-passive club lead and heart return would direct you towards ruffing a club in hand once you discover the trump break, rather than trying anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Since it's a robot tournament it's more about what the rest of the field are doing than about the success or failure of the contract, and by your off-centre opening you've ensured it's played the other way up than normal...OP wasn't commenting on his IMP score, he was commenting on the fact that he went down in a high-probability contract, regardless of what kind of score that yielded. The outcome appears to have nothing to do with which side the hand was played from; the successful declarers (from both ends of the table) made sure they got a club ruff rather than allowing trumps to be played 4 times. They made 3 natural trumps, 1 club, 1 club ruff, 3 diamonds and 2 hearts for 10 tricks, as Gnasher suggests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uva72uva72 Posted August 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Thanks. My actual question had to do with whether running the ♣9 at trick 2 is a higher percentage line than playing a trump. Math tables tell me that the 7 outstanding ♣s will split 6-1 6.78% of the time, risking a club ruff more often than trumps will lie 4-0 offside. I just don't know how that risk factors into the overall likelihood of making the contract with that line as compared with the line I chose. Then, of course, there is the suggested line of playing a ♣ to the Ace and another ♣, which potentially brings into play the ♠6. For the record, all Souths who received a ♣ lead and ducked it to the 9 made their contracts (although the subsequent defense was not at all challenging); none of the Souths who won the first club played another immediately, and none made their contracts. The only North declarer who succeeded got nullo defense. No North declarers led a ♣ at trick 2. A very challenging hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 My previous post should read "Either K or Q of ♣ is onside"And the first two conditions, referring to a suit breaking 4-0, are about spades, not diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Then, of course, there is the suggested line of playing a ♣ to the Ace and another ♣, which potentially brings into play the ♠6. I don't see what ♠6 has to do with it; you are going to ruff the third club with ♠10, so that if you get overruffed you will get 4 natural spade tricks in North instead of the 3 we originally counted. The plan is to allow for the loss of a club and two spades, but one of those spades might actually be an overruff on a club trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 I don't see what ♠6 has to do with it; you are going to ruff the third club with ♠10, so that if you get overruffed you will get 4 natural spade tricks in North instead of the 3 we originally counted. The plan is to allow for the loss of a club and two spades, but one of those spades might actually be an overruff on a club trick.If you ruff the third club with ♠10, then take a losing spade finesse, they may play a fourth club, overruffed with ♠6. My line actually looks like a way to go down when everything is breaking, so I prefer the original poster's line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 ok. I was thinking that after the third club, it would be right to cash all the red winners, throwing North's fourth club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Playing " pairs " there is no time to calculate the percentages.This may be one unlucky hand which could have been made almost double dummy by a HAMMAN,GAROZZO OR FORQUET and not the lesser mortals.Percentages go on changing as the cards are played to every trick. One must not be a slave of percentages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stpanda Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Ah, you're a piker. In a sectional in Pennsylvania a few years ago, my partner and I bid to 7NT with partner on play. Dummy ♠AKQ10xx♥void♦ K10x♣ A10xx Declarer♠8x♥AKxx♦AQ9xxx♣K The opening lead was a club. (If they lead any other suit it's cold.) But clubs was the unbid suit. Partner ran this around to his K, as would anybody. Then he led a spade up. Club pitch on his left. Then he called for the ♦K. Heart pitch on his right. So he passed the ♦10 to the J and we scored up -50. This turned out to be an 80% score for us, as the field was playing spade slams doubled. Even 6♠X -1 lost to our score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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