Fluffy Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 ♠xx♥xx♦AKQxxx♣K9x unfavourable, IMPs, LHO is dealer 1♥-1♠-3♥-?? Subsequent question LHO is going to bid 4♥ if you let him passed around to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I guess Dbl followed by Dbl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyams Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I bid 4♦. If the bidding continues, (4♥) pass (pass), I will double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Thrump double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I'd bid 4♦. It might be nice to be playing double as asking for a heart stop, but it doesn't show that. It's for takeout, and partner will expect length in both minors. If I double and LHO bids 4♥, we'll never be able to judge whether to compete or what suit to compete in. Even if it goes dbl-pass, and partner has a heart stop, he won't often bid 3NT, because that's not what he's been asked to do. Having bid 4♦, on the next round I'd pass it out. Double would invite further action, which I don't particularly want to do given that partner passed over 4♥. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Oh I am definitely bidding my AKQ 6th suit. No question about it on my part. And if 4 h comes to me I have an easy pass. I am bidding because there are a lot of good things that can happen besides the fact that no other call can tell pd better than 4 d- Opponents may let me play it.- instead of forcing pd to bid or pass double, when he has no clue that my hand is worthless if god forbid someone is short in diamonds, bidding 4 d gives him more flexible options.-they can bid 4 and pd may double, which I now can pass easily. Or pd passes it to me and I can pass easily. -pd can bid 5 dia and we make or we convince them that we are making. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Heh, Andy beat me while I was trying to type on this piece of &@#%^€ phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 4♦, a highly descriptive bid. An informed partner tends to make better decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 The real question here is <is 4d forcing or not> and it makes a hugedifference in any further contested auctions. IMHO the range of a 1s overcallis so vast that it is impossible for 4d to be forcing and I would play it as having even less potential for making 5d than a 5d bid. If your partnershipplays 4d as forcing here then you might as well quit reading the rest of thisopinion because your side is committed to game. If I were playing 4d as forcingI would pass unless playing with a partner that always makes strong overcalls. While I am a dia short for 4d I have decent suit quality which helps minimizethe danger of bidding this way at unfavorable. The 4d bid quite properly warnsp about the 1 suited nature of my hand and limits my power since I could havenot only bid 5d but I could also have chosen x followed by some number of diamonds with stronger hands. Bidding 4d here allows me to feel much safer aboutany action p may take if the opps continue to bid and I can respect a pass of4h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I also bid 4D. I do not consider it forcing nor a safe bid - but a necessary one considering the vast range of the 1S overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanak Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 usually dbl show min 4/4+ minors, decision is 4d (if show max 12/13hp non forcing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 The real question here is <is 4d forcing or not> Only RHM and PhilNumber play these bids as forcing. A few people were unsure, then Justin said "non-forcing" and that was that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 4d now and let partner tell me his judgment over 4H. I go with HIS Pass or Dbl over 4H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 4♦, then pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 unfavourable, IMPs, LHO is dealer ♠ x x ♥ x x ♦ A K Q x x x ♣ K 9 x1♥-1♠-3♥-??Subsequent question LHO is going to bid 4♥ if you let him passed around to you IMO Over 2♥: 4♦ = 10, Double = 9.Over 4♥: Double = 10, Pass = 9, 4♠ = 8. Parners tell me I don't double enough :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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