EricK Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 How often do you see a new, short, unopposed bidding sequence? This one was perpetrated against me last night: RHO Me LHO Pard1♦ P 2NT P4♦ All Pass I won't even ask you to guess what they each held, as the knowledge might kill someone with a pre-existing heart condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olegru Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Strong, natural, Ace asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Would take 4D as just a natural slam try with long D. Forcing of course. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Treadwell would probably have declared it as delayed Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Maybe 2NT was forcing to game or four of a minor, and 4♦ was fast arrival? :P Or 2NT was a weak raise of diamonds and 4♦ was obstructive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Strangely, this reminds me of a similarly shocking auction that I and a partner of mine actually executed successfully. 1♣-P-1NT-X-6♣-all pass The 1NT was alerted as 2-5 HCP. Because we were red on white, the further explanation was that the more vulnerable, the more minor cards I had to hold. 6♣ was down one when a King was in the wrong place, but the location of that King made 5♥ or 5♠ cold for the opponents. Had the King been placed elsewhere, their contract would fail, but our slam would make. So, extrapolating, perhaps 2NT as a "Weak Minor Jacoby Raise" with 4♦ as "1-2-4 stop?" The 1-2-4 stop is obvious. As to the merits of 2NT as a "weak raise," I would need compelling evidence of the merits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 The 1-2-4 stop is obvious. As to the merits of 2NT as a "weak raise," I would need compelling evidence of the merits. This is fairly common in England, with a double raise showing a mixed raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 This is fairly common in England, with a double raise showing a mixed raise. We actually play 1♦-2N as 5-8 5+♦ (with a non GF inverted 2♦ and 3♦ as 5+♦ 0-5) so this auction could occur for us, 4♦ would be natural and preemptive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenG Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 English club game? 2NT is 11-12 balanced, doesn't deny a 4-card suit anywhere. 4♦ is game invite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted August 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 English club game? 2NT is 11-12 balanced, doesn't deny a 4-card suit anywhere. 4♦ is game invite.That's the closest so far, but still not quite right. Responder had a 4-4-1-4 hand with 11 hcp. Opener also appeared to have about 11 hcp. They were missing ♦KQJ9xx, so 4♦ wasn't the par contract by any means. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 4♦ should set the suit and be asking or Aces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Without agreement, and opposite a random, I would take it for a) invitational for 5Db) invitational for 6D Obviously, you'd have to guess right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 RKC in D, using 4NT for keycards in minors is terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 RKC in D, using 4NT for keycards in minors is terrible.Minorwood and Kickback are both better alternatives, but I'd never consider using either without explicit discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 It depends on the context of the system. If 2N is invitational then 3D over that is non forcing so it makes some sense to just play 4D as forcing and the beginning of cuebidding since you have no other forcing bid with diamonds. If you play 3 of a major as shortness maybe that changes it (or maybe not). If 2N is forcing then 3D would be forcing so 4D as keycard definitely seems right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 It depends on the context of the system. If 2N is invitational then 3D over that is non forcing so it makes some sense to just play 4D as forcing and the beginning of cuebidding since you have no other forcing bid with diamonds.An interesting variation on this is to play 4♣ as agreeing diamonds and forcing cue bids (with 4♦ showing clubs), freeing up 4♦ for your choice of RKCB or a general slam try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Opener is a BBO random? My guess is he really wants to be declarer. Gotta get past that pesky 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted August 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Opener is a BBO random? My guess is he really wants to be declarer. Gotta get past that pesky 3NT.This was face-to-face bridge. Opener is an ex-partner of mine. I broke up the partnership largely due to his inability to consistently get even the first round of an unopposed auction correct. His new partner seems even worse than he in that respect. I have played against them a few times now, and don't recall their ever getting to the correct contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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