phil_20686 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 [hv=pc=n&w=sk9874hdkqt82c653&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=3hpp]133|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Ugh! No action is right. I think I double and pray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Pd has 4-5 hearts unless RHO is being too passive he has values too. I have good shape and reasonable values all in my long suits and most important I have the boss suit, I ain't passing. Double or 3 spade are close IMO. I can see myself shooting for both depending on scoring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Form of scoring? And by that, I mean "please tell me it's matchpoints" so I can double without reaching for my vicodin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Ugh! No action is right. I think I double and pray. I'll double and play (3HX). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 too much offensive potential to let them play 3h. UGHHHH not muchdefensive potential in case p wants to convert my x to penalties. 3S sends a chill down my spine with such a cruddy suitespecially when our hand is capable of playing in any of the suits(including a scary 3hx). I prefer a 4h michaels bid to 3s. At the veryleast I wont get stuck in spades unless it is our "best" suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 I can't x as I have no defence. My S are awful. What is left other than pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Doiuble is far too likely to produce -530. I'd bid 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 I am waiting for someone to post: "We play weakness-showing non-leaping Michaels 4♦ in balancing position here." I hope I have a long wait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I am waiting for someone to post: "We play weakness-showing non-leaping Michaels 4♦ in balancing position here." I hope I have a long wait. *** Because it works on the immediate hand?? Or you just don't think 2-suiter take-outs are useful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I am waiting for someone to post: "We play weakness-showing non-leaping Michaels 4♦ in balancing position here." I hope I have a long wait. *** Because it works on the immediate hand?? Or you just don't think 2-suiter take-outs are useful?Because of the trend of some to say they play exactly what would work in the given case, when it is doubtful they really do that. Because in the balancing seat versus 3H, I seriously doubt NLM is a good idea (based on frequency of patterns for balancer). Because even if NLM is someone's choice, I doubt it also shows an 8-count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Because of the trend of some to say they play exactly what would work in the given case, when it is doubtful they really do that. Because in the balancing seat versus 3H, I seriously doubt NLM is a good idea (based on frequency of patterns for balancer). Because even if NLM is someone's choice, I doubt it also shows an 8-count. *** And because double works here (NOT into 3H-X=) or are you passing (with 4S on)?Deny the problems shown in the immediate hand, as you wish, BUT to suggest 2-suiter take-outs won't work when this hand suggests that very agreement wins is head-in-the-sand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Makes me appreciate TheHog more and more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I do play NLM in 4th seat, I think it's right. But as you say, not on an 8-count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I do play NLM in 4th seat, I think it's right. But as you say, not on an 8-count. Interesting. I have the agreement to have NLM *off* in the balancing seat to allow us to balance more often (hand with shortness in the preemptor's suit and a long minor suit being, in my experience, more frequent than the 5-5 hand) but I'm now thinking I might be off base? What logic is your thought based on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 We don't need any defensive values when partner has 6 defensive tricks himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellSpyder Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I can't x as I have no defence. My S are awful. What is left other than pass? Doiuble is far too likely to produce -530. I'd bid 3♠. One of these for me - depending on mood, I guess. Double seems too likely to end the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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