eagles123 Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 both sides 4 card major weak NT scoring: impsvul: both vul [hv=pc=n&s=sq95hk8dqjt52ca84&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1hpp]133|200[/hv] Thanks, Eagles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 There is a fairly good chance p is trying to hide their drool dreaming about the sizeof the penalty in 1hx. Since our hand is reasonable in all other aspects we should beginwith x to cater to this extremely lucrative possibility. 2d feels safer but at imps that is notalways the point. When we have a fairly safe way to go for a big score it is generallybest to go that route vs the safe way:))))))))))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 1NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 2 ♦ The hand is slightly below an opening hand IMO -- 12 HCP but only 1 1/2 QTs. The ♥ K has to be discounted slightly for being in front of the ♥ bidder. Also, clearly ♦ are your best suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 gonna pass.. i can hardly believe we have anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 -balanced hand? Check -stopper in enemy suit? Check-do we have a bid in system for this range? Check 1 NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 I don't believe the choice to balance 1NT is clear vs. a balancing 2D, but they are far above Double and Pass IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 I don't believe the choice to balance 1NT is clear vs. a balancing 2D, but they are far above Double and Pass IMHO. Interesting you say that, to me 2/1 overcall with 5332 hands is a no no unless you have no other option and pass would be ridiculous. I would rate dbl better than 2 dia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Interesting you say that, to me 2/1 overcall with 5332 hands is a no no unless you have no other option and pass would be ridiculous. I would rate dbl better than 2 dia.It isn't an overcall for the purpose of applying that concept. Balancing suit-bids have different dogma attached to them than overcalls. A double, when partner is about zero to have five spades and will likely put you down as dummy with your KX of Hearts and Moysian fit just doesn't seem attractive here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 1nt - it should be better with your hand declarer. i don't normally overcall NTs with such a shape, but in passout it's fine because partner is going to have some hearts too. hate 2d on balanced crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SteveMoe Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 1NT but I am biased. I like mentioning a minor suit when there is a compelling reason - AK(Q)xx or 2T3+6 cards. A 5-card suit in a 5332 shape doesn't suggest a suit, it suggests NT. BTW- I would balance 1NT with 11-16 HCP here whether I hold a ♥ stop or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 1NT has the advantage, that it is more flexible with regards to the endcontract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Sorry, I thought I had opened 1♦ and 1♥ was an overcall. It's an obvious 1NT then, but 2♦ also comes to mind. Really a matter of preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Read the OP again WE - "both sides 4 card major weak NT" - even if you has been dealer you would not have opened 1♦. Funny that Timo was the one to point out that X was the main alternative given that he never doubles with this hand type. For the record I agree with him and think 2♦ absolutely the sort of the 4 options given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AreyHakaal Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 ONE NOTRUMP is the only sensible bid in this balancing position.Interchange the D x for HK and then 2D is the balancing bid.Double is out of question as I am least interested in a most likely spade or club contract and even a NT contract from partners hand.And Pass is absolutely timid novice call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted August 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Thanks folks, I doubled but I was really torn between double and 1NT. I didn't consider 2d at all. can't remember the actual hand but I think we ended up in a spade partial whatever i did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 It seems obvious to me, anyway, that we don't want partner to be Declarer here in the boss suit when he couldn't overcall in that suit. It also seems that we simply would like to go plus, and a QJTxx suit is not entirely "balanced crap". NT could work out well if partner holds QXX(X)H and only two diamonds, but opposite XXX in hearts and 3+ diamonds I suspect not. I wonder what the consensus would be on balancing after 1S P P with KX QJTXX QXX AXX. Does the extra 30 per trick for making contracts make the two situations that much different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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