Free Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 [hv=pc=n&s=shakqj94djt9742c8&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=2d(Wilkosz)p]133|200[/hv]2♦ = weak with 5+M and 5+ in another suit (may be both Majors). What do you do? Responses:Pass = long ♦ or suspicion that opener has ♦2♥ = 2+♥ P/C (if you rebid 3♥ next, you show your own suit)2♠ = 3+♠ P/C (if you rebid 3♠ next, you show your own suit)2NT = GF relay3♣ = nat NF3♦ = INV, either tolerance for both Majors or 3-suited with a short M3♥ = both Majors or 3-suited short ♠, PRE3♠ = 3-suited short ♥, PRE3NT = to play4♣ = transfer your best M4♦ = bid your best M4M = to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Looks like a hideous misfitI am passing. (I tried to figure out if there was any convincing case to be made for 2♠, but couldn't find one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 [hv=pc=n&s=shakqj94djt9742c8&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=2d(Wilkosz)p]133|200|2♦ = weak with 5+M and 5+ in another suit (may be both Majors). What do you do? Responses:Pass = long ♦ or suspicion that opener has ♦2♥ = 2+♥ P/C (if you rebid 3♥ next, you show your own suit)2♠ = 3+♠ P/C (if you rebid 3♠ next, you show your own suit)2NT = GF relay3♣ = nat NF3♦ = INV, either tolerance for both Majors or 3-suited with a short M3♥ = both Majors or 3-suited short ♠, PRE3♠ = 3-suited short ♥, PRE3NT = to play4♣ = transfer your best M4♦ = bid your best M4M = to play[/hv] IMO Pass = 10, 2♥ = 9, 2N = 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 You probably know my answer from last year's multi thread which featured a remarkably similar hand. 2♥ then 3♦ can be used to show this hand (an invitational red two-suiter). I just need one card in diamonds to make game good, but I can't really blast it. Assuming partner bids 2♠, you don't need 2NT as a relay. You can play it as a puppet to 3♣, so I think all hand types can be sorted. 3♣ is still available as p/c. All strategies that do not give partner a chance to value their hand are worth of the dreaded Nigel 5 out of 10 imo. :ph34r: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 4♥. Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 4♥ for me as well. The good news is no one can dbl this :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Why help out the opponents? How about 4♣ and passing partner's expected 4♥ transfer? He's more likely in a better position to declare (our holdings don't care), and they may think we've screwed up our system and have a harder time leading. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I'm bidding 4♥, 4♣ could also work. While our holdings don't care, it could be to our advantage not to reveal the 6 card diamond suit immediately, maybe they'll play me for more hearts than I have and not punch me out (eg dummy decks with x(x)/Q in the reds and they play trumps to stop me ruffing diamonds). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foobar Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 +1 for 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 As 4H is W is pass/correct, this may not be a great bid! If you want to play in 4H, bid 2H followed by 4H or go via 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Ron, it's not P/C. It's "to play". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Ron, it's not P/C. It's "to play". This is Matula's scheme. Responses: Pass = a) found me diamonds, pd! b) hope you got diamonds, pd! c) tactical (if 4th seat doubles, opener: Pass = D, XX = S-H, 2M = M-C) 2H = p/c, 2+H 2S = p/c, usu. 3+S unless 1H-2S 2N = strong relay 3C = nat NF 3D = invite+, support for both majors 3H = preempt, p/c 3S = preempt, support for spades and both minors, short hearts 3N = to play 4D = asks pd to bid major 4C/4H/4S = natural Yes, you are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 This is Matula's scheme.The response scheme we play is indeed based on Matula, but it's not entirely the same. Why do I even bother to write down our response scheme if you're going to respond using another scheme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 The response scheme we play is indeed based on Matula, but it's not entirely the same. Why do I even bother to write down our response scheme if you're going to respond using another scheme? Because you are so loveable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I am going to play at least 4♥ but I See no harm on trying 2NT first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I am going to play at least 4♥ but I See no harm on trying 2NT first. +1 provided I can still sign off in 4♥ after starting with 2NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 i pass and expect to write down a large number in the plus column at the end of the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 It seems like you're either an optimist (= realist?) or a pessimist. I was pessimistic and passed expecting a plus. Partner had ♥T8 and ♦Q (5-5 blacks no Ace) and 4♥ made easily. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 It seems like you're either an optimist (= realist?) or a pessimist. I was pessimistic and passed expecting a plus. Partner had ♥T8 and ♦Q (5-5 blacks no Ace) and 4♥ made easily. :( Ok. Because I now know that pd had those 3 great cards I will also bid 4H. Before I would have taken the same route as you and passed.Next time pd will have everything in the blacks; you will be forced at trick 1 and will go a couple off. That's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 IMO Pass = 10, 2♥ = 9, 4♣ = 8, 4♥ = 7, 2N = 6.Amended :( I accept the optimist's good argument :) -- and, in practice, game made :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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