Gloss over the 1N

[1eyedjack]

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MP, best hand South, Instant, pro GIB 30.

 

I don't see that South's bidding contributed to E/W result. They did that all on their own.

 

It may not be possible to construct a hand for South where 3C is consistent with the earlier 1N, so I grant that this may have been a confusing/influencing factor (although GIB does provide a definition for 3C, so perhaps the possibility is not outlandish).

 

The explanation for 2S includes 4+ Spades. I think it should be 5+ (and usually 6), and West will not feel constained to insist on H.

 

4S makes but I don't think that East has game ambitions when bidding 2S. West it seems thinks that he did.

 

BTW, had you been East, would you have left the 4HX?

 

 

[iandayre]

The same point keeps coming up again and again. Of course 2S shows more than 4 of them!! There are innumerable situations where bids are described as "4+" when no sane player would bid the suit with less than 6. Time to correct this in the next revision.

 

Also, even if somehow 2S could show 4 cards, it doesn't promise even H tolerance. So 4H is insane even under the current conditions.

 

I would have left in 4HX with a trusted partner.

[steve2005]

The same point keeps coming up again and again. Of course 2S shows more than 4 of them!! There are innumerable situations where bids are described as "4+" when no sane player would bid the suit with less than 6. Time to correct this in the next revision.

 

Also, even if somehow 2S could show 4 cards, it doesn't promise even H tolerance. So 4H is insane even under the current conditions.

 

I would have left in 4HX with a trusted partner.

 

agreed. 4♠ ludicrous. if only 4♠ and no ♥ tolerance then is asking for the minor unless they have a really bizarre hand with a long minor then it's bidding the minor not 2♠