wank Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 it shows an opening hand (or almost) and guarantees ONLY 5 hearts. what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 2♥A lead directing, space eating 2♥.lead so important at mp, if p ends up on lead I want a ♥ lead even imps. guess people should play intermediate jumps vul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 I would be a bit more likely to bid 2h if playing against a strong club systembut see not much to be gained here and may have a big surprise if rho lands in 3n. Some sympathy for MP 2h bidders since its only 1 board if disaster strikes. PassIMHO, this is backwards: MP vs IMP has already commented been on. 2♥ (or 3♥) is more dangerous vs a big club system because 1♠ is more limited. The biggest upside is finding a making game of your own, this is not affected much by enemy system. But the second biggest upside is causing the opponents to misjudge, missing a good game or bidding a bad game or bidding when they should be doubling--these misjudgements are significantly more likely when 1♠ is 12-21ish as in 2/1, than when it is 11ish-15 as in Precision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgalt Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 3H, but only if non-vulnerable (you haven't said one way or the other). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Too balanced for 3♥ also AKxxxx is low ODR, so easy pass. 6322 pattern is also bad, as is Q10 in a side suit. not conservative. chicken :D When vulnerable, being chicken can save many points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Two Heart will be my bid.The one spade opening has forced me to bid at the two level.But there is nothing to be ashamed of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 what?novice ! Isn't it.I wonder who taught him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 I am surprised at the number of players who chose to bid 2H. May the gods be with you. Bidding is the best start to losing this hand. Hello folks, this is a first seat opening weak 2 bid, not an opening hand. Your partners require require rather strong hands to even consider raising with 3 trumps. Now if you were behind 100 imps one of the reasons is because you bid with these hands, allow me therefore to suggest 4H, may as well also be the co-pilot on this airline! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 mcphee: if this is a weak 2, why not bidding it accordingly? :) By the way, since when does a 2-level overcall promise an opening?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 FWIW I thought pass was clear, although I have a lot of sympathy for Roger Clee's point. From what I experienced in croatia the top pairs bid *a lot*. The full hand was [hv=pc=n&s=sk952hqt98d8653c4&w=sqthjdkj72cakt732&n=saj843h43da94cqj5&e=s76hak7652dqtc986&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1s2h2s3cp3hp4hppdppp]399|300[/hv] So bidding did not turn out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Plays better in clubs, if you bid too many AND play in the wrong suit, you're cruising for a bruising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 So rebidding 3♥ did not turn out well. FYP east west can't go plus on this deal if south is happy to content himself with a raise to 2s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Plays better in clubs, if you bid too many AND play in the wrong suit, you're cruising for a bruising. Everything is -2? in 5c x lose 1c 2s 1d. In 4h lose 2h 2s 1d, still two off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I would be a bit more likely to bid 2h if playing against a strong club system but see not much to be gained here and may have a big surprise if rho lands in 3n. -- gszes. *** As a strong club limits their 1S, some more chance to find partner holding goods, is that your suggestion?Much more useful to jam an unlimited 1S and this hand surely doesn't anticipate 4H for us, pure lead-direct/jam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Everything is -2? in 5c x lose 1c 2s 1d. In 4h lose 2h 2s 1d, still two off? If you're going all the way to 5, yes. If you're known to overcall on hands like this, you bid 4♣ and partner passes, you could have bid 3♠ if you had a good 4♣ raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jallerton Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Everything is -2? in 5c x lose 1c 2s 1d. In 4h lose 2h 2s 1d, still two off? You might have a chance of making 3♣, though. Unless playing fit non-jumps (or transfers) in this position, it seems clear to pass 3♣. you need an awful lot from partner to be making game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Everything is -2? in 5c x lose 1c 2s 1d. In 4h lose 2h 2s 1d, still two off? Were you playing in a jurisdiction where partscores aren't allowed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 The 3♥ rebid was just horrible. Even if my partner had persuaded me to play 3♣ as forcing (which would take some doing), I would still pass. We'll probably end up defending 3♠ which needs tight defence to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Phil beat me on this when I was about to reply similar if not the same. Remember also what Justin said in another topic Bid-bid-bid-bid in a competitive auction about being NF It's amazing otoh how people have too strong opinions about a bid that is close. One of them talking about an opening hand for a 2 level overcall and another one calling "chicken" to those who passes. Seems to me some people have no place in their life for the colors between black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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