If you're gonna preemptively raise,

[Bbradley62]

[hv=bbo=y&lin=pn|bbradley62,~~M48216,~~M48214,~~M48215|st%7C%7Cmd%7C4SQH3JQKAD268AC5TA%2CS6JKAH5D47KC2678J%2CS2489H24679TDC349%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%206%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20%21H%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%20%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7CTakeout%20double%20--%203-5%20%21C%3B%203-5%20%21D%3B%202-%20%21H%3B%203-4%20%21S%3B%2012%2B%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3D%7Can%7CJump%20new%20suit%20--%204%2B%20%21D%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%209-12%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Can%7C3%2B%20%21H%3B%209-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7C6%2B%20%21D%3B%204%20%21S%3B%2010-11%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7C5%2B%20%21H%3B%202%2B%20%21S%3B%2011%2B%20HCP%3B%2012-20%20total%20point%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CHK%7C]360|270[/hv]Silly me, I thought +500 would be good at matchpoints :(

[Antrax]

What score was the top then? 500 is still more than 450, right?

[edit]

Oh, but less than 650

[1eyedjack]

It is a part of GIB system that we have to live with for the time being.

 

All direct raises, however pre-emptive, come with a total points price-tag. Lacking those requirements (flexed perhaps by one or two TP) you have systemically no choice but to pass initially and then later bounce in to show the hand with fewer TP than any direct action would have shown. This seems to apply throughout the system.

[Bbradley62]

What score was the top then? 500 is still more than 450, right?

[edit]

Oh, but less than 650

The hand was played 8 other times... One South played 4Hx+1=690, 6 played 5Hx=650, 1 defended 4S-1=100. So, 12.5% for me.

[georgi]

It's addressed for review.

 

Currently

 

1M - X - 2M/3M/4M are all semi-constructive starting from 5+ ( and up to 10 ) points, and 3/4+ cards

1M - X - 2NT is the only LR+ forcing.

[kenrexford]

What the heck else could the bot have? Granted, the initial pass was bizarre, but after the pass a jump to 4♥ must be something like this.

[Bbradley62]

What the heck else could the bot have? Granted, the initial pass was bizarre, but after the pass a jump to 4♥ must be something like this.

Agreed, if GIB joins the table after West's pass, say in one of those Express Tournaments, he should bid 4♥ then. My post is to suggest that if he's at the table a round earlier (which I happen to know he was), he shouldn't make his "bizarre" initial pass.

[lycier]

It's addressed for review.

 

Currently

 

1M - X - 2M/3M/4M are all semi-constructive starting from 5+ ( and up to 10 ) points, and 3/4+ cards

1M - X - 2NT is the only LR+ forcing.

 

 

Nice try.

but I think those are some hard and complicated work since there are some differences between old and new bidding system.Gib uses old standard bidding system .

For example at below:

 

1- responsive rule:

 

Gib: up the line

New: Walsh

 

2- jump raise

Gib: limited raise

New: preemptive raise

 

3- 2/1 response is game force,complete?

Gib:no

New:yes

 

So it is a complicated things,you need to consider the whole bidding system.