phil_20686 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 [hv=pc=n&e=saj98ha63dj63ckt2&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2h(Spades+Minor)pp]133|200[/hv] So LHO showed spades and a minor, his partner passed this. There is zero chance they have had a misunderstanding, rho just has hearts. Will you balanced now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Absolutely not. If you are fixed, you are fixed. But they have no fit and they are vul, so unless you can make a game you are likely to do as well defending 2♥ as anything. And there is a significant chance that you can't make anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Agree, I'm not liking our offensive chances on this with 4333, spade length under the guy with the spades, potential bad breaks all over the place. We're more likely to beat 2H than to make anything. ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 WTP PASS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 pard probably has short hearts... if he passed, he has nothing. So pass you miss a game if he has a balanced 12-14 with 3 hearts, but that's just about the only really bad scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 pard probably has short hearts... if he passed, he has nothing. So pass you miss a game if he has a balanced 12-14 with 3 hearts, but that's just about the only really bad scenarioDid you read the opening post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 pard probably has short hearts... if he passed, he has nothing. So pass you miss a game if he has a balanced 12-14 with 3 hearts, but that's just about the only really bad scenario Because he will obviously make a t/o double of spades with short hearts? No reason at all partner cannot have a decent hand with short hearts here, he only got a chance to t/o spades. Its a Transfer Lucas type thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 FWIW double is not for takeout here. But anyway, I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 At least they are vulnerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Sorrry, I didn't notice it was spade/minor. Well, probably that makes it even more dangerous to bid. pass regardless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted August 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 The full hand was: [hv=pc=n&s=skqt62hk7d5cj9872&w=s73hqtdaq84caq643&n=s54hj98542dkt972c&e=saj98ha63dj63ckt5]399|300[/hv] So I passed. So we missed 3N on this deal. The consensus among the players out there was that this was a tough position, but that you should probably bid either dble or 2N, on the grounds that your partner was expecting another bid. Obviously, hard to know if people were resulting a bit. Partner didnt want to overcall because he didn't have a great bid available, and expected to get another chance to bid in the protective seat. 2N in protective seat as a flawyed 2N overcall would express his hand nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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