cherdano Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=s943ha9876dj5cq54]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-(2♦)-?[/hv]Sadly, you have no 2NT as a mixed raise with 4 trumps available, which might be the perfect bid. (Or maybe not?) So which (mis-)description do you choose? (3♦ is 4+hearts with invitational values). Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 4H. 2H is reasonable, 3D is an overbid. I would bid 2H if there had been no overcall. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 So which (mis-)description do you choose? 4♥. 9 loser hand, not good enough for 3♦ invitational or better. Besides, if I bid 3♦, LHO may get in with spades (either 3♠ or double). I have a bad hand for defence, so let them guess after 4♥ if it's their hand. If partner has something, 4♥ may even make. If he has nothing (as usual), no harm done, since no one can double for penalties any more. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=s943ha9876dj5cq54]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-(2♦)-?[/hv]Sadly, you have no 2NT as a mixed raise with 4 trumps available, which might be the perfect bid. (Or maybe not?) So which (mis-)description do you choose? (3♦ is 4+hearts with invitational values). I'm quite happy with 2♥. I wouldn't make a mixed raise even if one were available. And, 4♥ seems hyper aggressive, inviting -200 on a partscore hand even when they can't double us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 At this vul, and at imps, a tame 2♥ for me. I dion't like my distribution other than the fifth heart. My diamond Jack is useless for a heart contract but has slim chance of being valuable on defense. If the vulnerability was different, I would bid this more agreesively. Ben PS ... i am assuming that pre robson simple means 3H here would be limit raise, so only raise options are 2 and 4 with this hand... if 3H is preemptive weak, of course i would bid that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 3♥ at this vul, 3H doesnt show a very poor hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 4♥This way it'll be "no double, no trouble". If opps only have a partscore they might get 140 so we risk 60/90, if we go down 2, but we gain a lot if it makes. And partner does not need much extra to make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 3♥ at this vul, 3H doesnt show a very poor hand.I have to say I like this reasoning (provided partner is on the same page, of course :)). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 I like 3H too. It's about right on playing strength without getting you too high. And it still has some preemptive value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 It would be nice to know what system we are playing before commiting to a bid. Anyway I think 3H is correct. I dislike the 4H bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 I think anti-law says 2H. 13-5-0=8 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 I think anti-law says 2H. 13-5-0=8 tricks. what is anti-law ? a tool from "i fought the law" book ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 I think anti-law says 2H. 13-5-0=8 tricks. what is anti-law ? a tool from "i fought the law" book ? if that's the case i'm definitely bidding 4H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Yes, If I got this right 13=total available tricks5=Dist=My estimate of total cards in the 2 shortest suits between both hands.0=Hcp adjustment=estimate 19-21 working hcp so zero adjustment, more hcp=postive, less=negative adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 2H for me. Wrong for a preempt, definitely wrong for 4H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 I would bid 3♥ as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 learned the hard way not to bid 4H (triple raise) on 5332 distribution: enough trumps but too many losers. 3♥ sounds good "I'm breakin' rocks in the hot sun. I fought the law but the law won, I fought the law but the law won". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 I second to that. 3H for me as well. 4H on a 5332 is a gamble, especially with those defensive values in the minor suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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