dickiegera Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 [hv=d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1dp1h2s2n]133|100[/hv] I know 1♦-P-1♥-P-2NT shows extra values Does 1♦-P-1♥-2♠ -2NT show extra values? Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Bidding here with a weak hand is simply a rookie error. The standard meaning is that it shows 18-19 balanced (other agreements are available). With a weak hand it is normal just to pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggerclub Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 This auction almost doesn't exist for me. Partner is supposed to reopen almost anything that could respond when 2S comes around. So if I want to bid 2N to show 18-19, I really want to pass so P can x. If she bids something else, I can always bid 3N. I would only bid on over 2S to show a H fit, or to show something really imbalanced, so 2N is out. If my partner bids it, we have a little discussion on trusting me and partnership bidding theory after the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 The bid shows 18-19 balanced, but keep in mind that many people (quite naturally) think that "min NT bids show min NT hands". It takes a bit of experience/studying to understand that here min NT hand = PASS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 yes, why does 2NT in the first seq. promises add. strenght?2NT forces the partnership to play on the 3 level. Does this reason become invalid, when they intervene?Just because they make a weak bid, does this make our handstronger? In general, I would suggest playing 2NT in the 2nd seq. as art.Lebensohl style, since the intervention killed space, and to getsome space back, you need art. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 All system choices have holes (main reason preeepmtswork) so each partnership must choose how to gain the most(imps) or gain the most often (mp) from each situation. The standard interpretation (in both sequences) of 2n(over 2s) showing extra values (and a spade stop(s)) triesto cover the most likely probabilities in conjunction withx showing extra values but no clear direction. This seriescannot show partner the difference between a 3 or 4 cardheart hand unless it is by never raising with 3 card supportA AKx Kxxxx Axxx would have to pass or bid 2n for ex. If you use support x you have no bid available to showhands similar to xxx KQ KJxxx AKQ (opening 1n with suchhands to avoid these rebid problems will lose out on avariety of other hands). These partnerships either have toexpand the meaning of 2n to include hands with no spade stopor pass (or make a really ugly looking 3d bid). Most stick with the standard version since showing 3 cardheart support in general is not always a bargain much lesswhen forcing the partnership to the 3 level. The sequencesare aimed at showing different types of hands and each partner-ship needs to decide what makes them the happiest overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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