waychan Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 when pard open 1♠, u hold: ♠Kxxxx ♥void ♦KJ10xx ♣xxx , what do u bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 4S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waychan Posted February 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 Maybe pard hold: ♠AQxxx ♥Kxxx ♦AQx ♣x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 4H. 7 hcp, but so what? Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 Note 19 "Working HCP" in your example. Choose to spend my energy on next hand and hopefully still win match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 a 'perfect minimum' would make slam laydown (say ♠AQxxx ♥xxx ♦AQ ♣xxx)... i think i'd bid 4♥ also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 2♦, 1) I don't like making a splinter in a void2) To strong for 4♠3) Good five card suit to tell partner about before showing support Now, the way I play, 3!D is a "fit jump" and forcing to at least 3♠ and less than normal 2/1 values but can be game force hand like this, so 3♦ is possibility with partners who play this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 you're right, the splinter with a void probably isn't good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 A practical 4S. Why give them a chance to double a splinter. Why search for the "pie in the sky" magical slam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 We have the boss suit so I'm not that concerned with a sac. If I start with 2 diamonds I never seem to be able to convince pard.I have 5 trump. Although they never seem to come up, I play 1S - 3N as a void splinter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 If I choose to make a try for slam then I'd bid 3NT, showing an unspecied minimal splinter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 4♥ 9-11 hcp, void, 4 trumps, OR 7-9 hcp, void, 5 trumps. Stronger hands with a void will go via 2NT. Will confirm ♠Q if asked. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waychan Posted February 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 if make a splinter, then something happen:♠AQxxx ♥Kxxx ♦x ♣AQxwhat a crazy 6♠! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 Well i think you should bid 4♠.Partners HCP are irrelevant if they are in ♥. So this will be the best choice most of the time.If you are gready, you can try 2♦, if partner will not show ♥ (values), chances for more are there. By the way, your hand shows 26 ZAR, by bidding game you promise to have 26. (7 HCP, 2 Controlls, 15 DP, 1 extra for trump K, 1 extra for 5th trump)If your partner holds:♠AQxxx ♥Kxxx ♦x ♣AQxAfter your 4♠ he will reevaluate this to:15 HCP, 1 extra for 15+ in 3 suits, 13 DP, 5 controlls, 2 extra for AD in trump with fit = 36 ZAR36 + 26 = 62 minimum for 6 level.So your partner could bid on with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 If your partner holds:♠AQxxx ♥Kxxx ♦x ♣AQxAfter your 4♠ he will reevaluate this to:15 HCP, 1 extra for 15+ in 3 suits, 13 DP, 5 controlls, 2 extra for AD in trump with fit = 36 ZAR36 + 26 = 62 minimum for 6 level.So your partner could bid on with this. Isn't this exactly what I DON'T want him to do? And in fact, 4♥ would gently stop him from doing so (not that I think he should do so over 4♠). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 Isn't this exactly what I DON'T want him to do? And in fact, 4♥ would gently stop him from doing so (not that I think he should do so over 4♠). Usually jumping to full game, implies partner should pass. There should be means in the system to show a hand that looks promising. But Bergen-raises, minisplinter, invitational jacoby, fit showing jumps or <place your favorite method here>, seem to be not available.I think a splinter should include an invitation to go further than full game. So a splinter would not make me stop, but i would expect a stronger hand 4 that.I don't like 2♦, with a delayed game rise, because that should show slam interest as well.If posted here, and not stating something different, i assume a pickup partnership, playing the usual "We did not talk about anything!" system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waychan Posted February 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 in my Polish Club System Major Raises：1♠ - ? 4m/3NT = Void-splinter 3♠ = Pre-emptive 3♥ = sigleton-splinter 3♦ = mixed/limit raise 3♣ = GF raise 2NT = Fit-showing/also can rebid a sigleton Now I bid 2NT, if pd 3♦, then I can show my Void, if pd 3♣ simple 4♠. Is it a method? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 I would bid 4♥, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbreath Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 4S ..stop dreaming .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 2♦ is slow enough, tells partner I have a great suit, and you can make the auction GF later on, especially when opps intervene, your partner will have a good vision about your hand. 4♥ is another alternative, but you have nothing in ♣, so your partner might guess wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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