luis Posted July 1, 2003 Report Share Posted July 1, 2003 Hi, an easy quizz to test your MP luck, I'll post the answers/comments later and you can see how you did (note that answers will be based on the real life result)MPs tournament, average opps.You are always South for clarity. 1) First board of the tourney, are we doubling partscores yet?NoneVul, Kxxx, xx, 8xxxx, xxWest North East You1s 2h 2s passpass x pass 3d3s pass pass ? Do you double? 2) Do you like to defend a touch and go 1Nx or play a likely 4-3 fit? NoneVul, AT9x, J98, AT62, xxWest North East You 1d pass1NT x pass ? Your bid? 3) I have a lot of black cards pd.NSVul, KQJTxx, xx, -, KQJTxWest North East You 1d 1s2h p 3d 4cp 4s p p5d x p ? Your bid? 4) We are rolling, do we keep pushing?EWVul, x, Jx, KJxxx, KQxxxDo you open this hand? 5) Black cards strike back!NS Vul, AKQxx, x, x, KTxxxxWest North East You2h p p ?No particular agreements. 6) Are we framed?NoneVUl, QJTxx, KJxx, Kxx, TWest North East You pass pass1h pass 2d pass2h pass pass ? Easy pass or do you bid 2s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted July 1, 2003 Report Share Posted July 1, 2003 Hi, an easy quizz to test your MP luck, I'll post the answers/comments later and you can see how you did (note that answers will be based on the real life result)MPs tournament, average opps.You are always South for clarity. 1) First board of the tourney, are we doubling partscores yet?NoneVul, Kxxx, xx, 8xxxx, xxWest North East You1s 2h 2s passpass x pass 3d3s pass pass ? Do you double? 2) Do you like to defend a touch and go 1Nx or play a likely 4-3 fit? NoneVul, AT9x, J98, AT62, xxWest North East You 1d pass1NT x pass ? Your bid? 3) I have a lot of black cards pd.NSVul, KQJTxx, xx, -, KQJTxWest North East You 1d 1s2h p 3d 4cp 4s p p5d x p ? Your bid? 4) We are rolling, do we keep pushing?EWVul, x, Jx, KJxxx, KQxxxDo you open this hand? 5) Black cards strike back!NS Vul, AKQxx, x, x, KTxxxxWest North East You2h p p ?No particular agreements. 6) Are we framed?NoneVUl, QJTxx, KJxx, Kxx, TWest North East You pass pass1h pass 2d pass2h pass pass ? Easy pass or do you bid 2s? Let's see how many bottoms I can achieve 1) I don't double. I expect they have the majority of the points, I am happy at having pushed them to the three level. 2) I bid 2S. yes it a potential 4-3 fit, but I am not certain 1NT is going down, and I don't want to punish partner for competing on a 4-4-1-4 ten point hand. 3) I pass. I have said my piece. Partner couldn't manage 2S on the first round, so I suspect he only has a doubleton. It is more likely that we can defeat 5D than we can make 5S. 4) If I don't have an opening bid (eg 2NT) to show both minors then I pass. I fear an unopposed auction like 1D 1S 2C 2H (FSF) 3C 3NT - down 2, or 1D 1S 2C 3S down 1 etc etc. Conversely, if partner turns up with little bits here and there I like our defensive chances against most high level contracts. 5) A horrible problem if we really have no agreements. If 3H would be taken as a Michaels cue bid then I would try that. I am tempted to double, and then convert a diamond bid to spades, but that is risky. I shall bid a simple 2S and hope to go plus! If RHO is lying in wait on a misfit hand I will do well if other Souths bid more strongly. 6) I will pass this one. There could easily be a massive crossruff by the opps if I declare. But I see a fair chance of our defeating 2H. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted July 1, 2003 Report Share Posted July 1, 2003 1) First board of the tourney, are we doubling partscores yet?NoneVul, Kxxx, xx, 8xxxx, xxWest North East You1s 2h 2s passpass x pass 3d3s pass pass ? LOTT suggest they have 8 spades, we have 8 or 9 diamonds, for total 16.5 trumps. I have bad spots in diamonds, suggest minor suit problem and the spade King looks good defense, useless offense. So I figure this as a 16 trick hand. Maybe two is limit for both sides, or maybe one side could make 9 tricks, the other 7. So double is attractive, however, here I will pass. The reason for this is two fold. first, it is the first hand of the event, and with such a bad hand, I don't want to hang partner for a good balance... 3Sx making will effect him more in a negative way, and 3S down one undoubled (assume both sides make 8 tricks) will make him feel like a winner for pushing them one higher. Besides, partner is likely to give up a diamond trick on the opening lead, so while we maybe able to beat 3S with perfect defense, we might not get it. Later in the match, or if I am in contention and need a board, I would make a LOTT-based, four trump double here. NoneVul, AT9x, J98, AT62, xxWest North East You 1d pass1NT x pass ?Your bid? 2SPADES. What makes you think if you pass the contract will stay in 1NT anyway? Partner wanted you to bid a major and WEST is likely to have biddable clubs if 1NT is a horrid place. Don't bid 2H's because you want to take diamond ruffs in your partner's hand.. so if both are 4-3 fits, you want to play in spades, not hearts. 3) I have a lot of black cards pd.NSVul, KQJTxx, xx, -, KQJTxWest North East You 1d 1s2h p 3d 4cp 4s p p5d x p ? If you force me into this auction I pass. Your partner couldn't 1) make a bid over 2H's, 2) took a simple preference back to 4S over 4C, 3) it seems unlikley that he/she is seeking to make a stripe-tail ape double trying to talk them out of 6D, but I have seen stranger things. Of course, it is always possible partner is looking at spade ACE and heart king, and five spades rolls home, as does 5 diamonds. But come one, partner heard you bid to four level vul all by yourself. If he had two offense tricks he would bid on. What he should have is slow diamond and slow heart tricks... something like.... S-xxx H-KJTxx D-QT87 Cxx instead of S-Axx H-Kxxx D-Txxx C-xx 4) We are rolling, do we keep pushing?EWVul, x, Jx, KJxxx, KQxxxDo you open this hand? No. Give me good x's in my minors... KJ97x KQ98x and I would. 5) Black cards strike back!NS Vul, AKQxx, x, x, KTxxxxWest North East You2h p p ?No particular agreements. I like to play Liberal leaping michaels as written up in bridge world in the mid 1980's. This is the perfect hand for it, but you may get crushed using it if EAST has a good hand but no heart fit, but... lucky it is only matchpoints... So I would bid 4Cs (clubs and spades 9 to 13'ish hcp ). But here you limit me to no particular agreement. Playing no agreement, I would bid 2S. 6) Are we framed?NoneVUl, QJTxx, KJxx, Kxx, TWest North East You pass pass1h pass 2d pass2h pass pass ? Easy pass or do you bid 2s? Matchpoint is an evil game. This hand has PASS stamped all over it. 1) you have four trumps. 2) 2/3rds of your values and all your controls are in their suits, 3) Your partner, who rates to be short in hearts did not bid over 1H or even 2H (this is a partnership game), 4) They have both described and limited their hands so when it is right to double you, they surely will, and 5) somebody is sitting on a bunch of clubs, and it maybe the opponents and the hand may play better in 3C than 2Hs. On the other hand, 2H by the opponents is probably not going to score well for you. They sound like they did well stopping at a low level. All in all, I think I will gamble that they are in the wrong contract, or that the hand is a total misfit for everyone and pass. But at mp, not vul, I really do have some sympathy for the brave sole who bids 2S in the hopes of pushing them just one level higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted July 1, 2003 Report Share Posted July 1, 2003 Hi, an easy quizz to test your MP luck, I'll post the answers/comments later and you can see how you did (note that answers will be based on the real life result)MPs tournament, average opps.You are always South for clarity. 1) First board of the tourney, are we doubling partscores yet?NoneVul, Kxxx, xx, 8xxxx, xxWest North East You1s 2h 2s passpass x pass 3d3s pass pass ? Do you double? Yes, Dbl. All or nothing. 2) Do you like to defend a touch and go 1Nx or play a likely 4-3 fit? NoneVul, AT9x, J98, AT62, xxWest North East You 1d pass1NT x pass ? Your bid?pass, dont think Op have much trick resource.3) I have a lot of black cards pd.NSVul, KQJTxx, xx, -, KQJTxWest North East You 1d 1s2h p 3d 4cp 4s p p5d x p ? Your bid? pass, u said enough, pd is boss. 4) We are rolling, do we keep pushing?EWVul, x, Jx, KJxxx, KQxxxDo you open this hand? no 5) Black cards strike back!NS Vul, AKQxx, x, x, KTxxxxWest North East You2h p p ?No particular agreements. 3h if pd use mike cue.6) Are we framed?NoneVUl, QJTxx, KJxx, Kxx, TWest North East You pass pass1h pass 2d pass2h pass pass ? Easy pass or do you bid 2s? no, 2s would be suicide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted July 1, 2003 Report Share Posted July 1, 2003 Hi Luis, 1) First board of the tourney, are we doubling partscores yet?NoneVul, Kxxx, xx, 8xxxx, xxWest North East You1s 2h 2s passpass x pass 3d3s pass pass ? Do you double? No why should I? If 3 Spades make I have 50 % if I don?t double and zero if I do.If 3 Spade is -1 I have 95 % if I double and maybe 60 % else. 2) Do you like to defend a touch and go 1Nx or play a likely 4-3 fit? NoneVul, AT9x, J98, AT62, xxWest North East You 1d pass1NT x pass ? Your bid?Do I have any ideas what this double is? 4 suited take out? Penalty? Majors? Just showing some cards?I take it for majors and bid 2 Spade,. If pd really has just 4-3 in the majors, he must have other good reasons to double and we can still make it. 3) I have a lot of black cards pd.NSVul, KQJTxx, xx, -, KQJTxWest North East You 1d 1s2h p 3d 4cp 4s p p5d x p ? Your bid? Pass of course. I bid all alone the way to 4 Club. I should have shown my hand. No need to show it again. 4) We are rolling, do we keep pushing?EWVul, x, Jx, KJxxx, KQxxxDo you open this hand? Surely: 3 Club if this shows Club and another weak..Else 2 NT to show a minor two suiter or just pass. 5) Black cards strike back!NS Vul, AKQxx, x, x, KTxxxxWest North East You2h p p ?No particular agreements. 2 Spade then 6) Are we framed?NoneVUl, QJTxx, KJxx, Kxx, TWest North East You pass pass1h pass 2d pass2h pass pass ? Easy pass or do you bid 2s? I really passedx this monster in second seat but was asked to open the other hand?Bridge is a bidders game, easy 2 Spade.Okay, I now, if they have no fit, we should not balance. And my pd was silent all the time.But My spades are really good and I still wait for the opps, who compete to 3 HEart X -3 :DMaybe here they are.... Kind Regards Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifemonster Posted July 1, 2003 Report Share Posted July 1, 2003 1.No double no trouble. Happy to push them to 3 level. 2.pass. I have very high spots certainly look helpful. Any major leads I will be happy. I have two diamond stoppers so we will setup our suit before they do. 3.I would jump to 4S right after 1D opener.I'd pass the double. If it is wrong, at least I'm not the one screwed up. 4.What are the spots? If I need to create something I'd open 3C. Else, pass, which means if I get the 1st three right. 5.2S looks safe. Partner may confuse with 3H cuebid as stopper asking, gambling 3N type hand. 6.No, make a penalty pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted July 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Hi, all, thanks for posting!Hope you liked the quiz, now let's see how you did! 1) First board of the tourney, are we doubling partscores yet?NoneVul, Kxxx, xx, 8xxxx, xxWest North East You1s 2h 2s passpass x pass 3d3s pass pass ? Do you double? If you doubled you scored +300 for 100% and a superb start, if you pass your pd will missread that you have 4 spades and you will be +50 for 20%.I passed. 2) Do you like to defend a touch and go 1Nx or play a likely 4-3 fit?NoneVul, AT9x, J98, AT62, xxWest North East You 1d pass1NT x pass ? Your bid? If you passed you will score +300 for 100%If you bid 2s you score +140 playing on the 4-3 fit for about 30%If you bid 2h! you score +140 or +170 for a top depending on the defense. Pd held Kxx, AQxxx, xx, Axx.I bid 2 spades. 3) I have a lot of black cards pd.NSVul, KQJTxx, xx, -, KQJTxWest North East You 1d 1s2h p 3d 4cp 4s p p5d x p ? Your bid? If you passed -550 for an absolute bottom. At least you lead the cK to prevent the overtrick didn't you? If you bid 5s you get doubled for -200 and a top. Pd held just the Ace of hearts and 3-2 in the black suits. I passed. 4) We are rolling, do we keep pushing?EWVul, x, Jx, KJxxx, KQxxxDo you open this hand? If you opened the hand you will play 4c making 5 for a top on bad defense (4c always makes). If you passed don't worry, maybe you have the chance to enter the auction later but notice that they win 3s and will bid spades inmediately. I opened 1d :-) 5) Black cards strike back!NS Vul, AKQxx, x, x, KTxxxxWest North East You2h p p ?No particular agreements. If you bid 2s you play 2s for +170 and an average board.If you doubled you are -470 for a disaster (pd held KJxxx of hearts)If you bid 3h and 4s over 3s or directly 4c you play 4s for +620 and a top.Even without an agreement I bid 4c :-) What the hell can 4c be if not leaping michs? I decided it was a convention that didn't need to be agreed :-) Pd alerted "undiscussed but if it's not clubs and spades it WILL be discussed" 6) Are we framed?NoneVUl, QJTxx, KJxx, Kxx, TWest North East You pass pass1h pass 2d pass2h pass pass ? Easy pass or do you bid 2s? If you passed you are -110 for an absolute bottom. If you bid 2s you can get doubled and go -300 on a crossruff, they can bid 3h and go down, they can bid 2n, you can play 2s undoubled.... who knows? But It can't be better than a 0% :-)Of course I passed and blamed myself, because I did have the feeling that we were getting framed by EW. -------------------- I must say that Inquiry's comments were amazingly accurate, since this was a club game he didn't know the hands, full credits for his sound comments. --------------------- Hope you did well, if you didn't shine on this boards don't worry, as you can see they weren't good for me either and we finished with 74.9% :-) ah yes, they other boards where sweet so if you scored well you might just have produced a record score! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Hi Luis, thanks for the results..I just still wonder about some hands. 1. Can you show me your pds hand, just to see, what hand he had to produce so many tricks and still bid his way? 2. So your pd X on 3523 with 12 HCPs. I really will be interested in the odds to get a top with this idea. You need a pd, who can judge, that the hand belongs in Heart if he runs. You need a pd who can judge when to sit the X or when to run. Really amazing idea. But how does it work? 3. You should have told us, that you play one trick doubles even at the game level :9With one ace, the double is just silly. You are not in a forcing pass sequence, you have a fit, so no need to decide, that it is time to double opps.What did I miss? Kind Regards Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted July 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Hi Luis, thanks for the results..I just still wonder about some hands. 1. Can you show me your pds hand, just to see, what hand he had to produce so many tricks and still bid his way? 2. So your pd X on 3523 with 12 HCPs. I really will be interested in the odds to get a top with this idea. You need a pd, who can judge, that the hand belongs in Heart if he runs. You need a pd who can judge when to sit the X or when to run. Really amazing idea. But how does it work? 3. You should have told us, that you play one trick doubles even at the game level :9With one ace, the double is just silly. You are not in a forcing pass sequence, you have a fit, so no need to decide, that it is time to double opps.What did I miss? Hi Roland :-) 1) In hand 1 pd held A, KQxxx, JTx, AQx 2) He wasn't sure between 2h and double, since double had the option of leaving the x he preferred to x. I was his pd so if he thought I have good judgement to leave the double or bid 2M then I'm thankful. I'd have preferred 2h with his hand but double is ok to me. 3) Well, I think he thought I held some tricks for bidding twice vulnerable vrs not including a 4 level bid. Too bad I just had a lot of distribution and no tricks for defense. I think I should have pulled the double to 5s. Can't blame him. When I have a freakish hand and it's not clear that I have a freak I prefer to bid one more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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