nige1 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 On the official website, the Butlers are confusing. The open-B butler features only 2 Italian pairs. In the Seniors B-final, the Butlers seem to be the same as in the A-final. Firefox on my old netbook struggles with bulletin pdfs -- but Is there a bulletin or other source with more complete Butler information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 The link is just wrong for the seniors B-Final - http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/ButlerSFB.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 No other Italian pair played enough boards to be included on the butler. Cima-Sementa 64 boards playedSementa-Versace 32Cima-Giubilo 64Giubulo-Sementa 32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jallerton Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 If you want to see a list including pairs who played fewer boards, try this link which someone referred to during last weekend's vugraph commentary. If you want to see a ranking list of how well each pair played then hard luck, it does not exist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Thank you MickyB and JAllerton. John Matheson and Paul Gibson have devised formulae that iterate to an "adjusted" Butler, taking into account opponents' apparent calibre -- still a crude measure of performance but I find them interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 John Matheson and Paul Gibson have devised formulae that iterate to an "adjusted" Butler, taking into account opponents' apparent calibre Are those numbers available somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Are those numbers available somewhere?No. I've not done such adjustments for a few years since I believed it was giving credence to meaningless numbers, especially as it was normally for the Camrose where there are only six teams with quite a difference in standard between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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