eagles123 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 [hv=pc=n&w=s2hat54da95ck9872&e=saqt98hdkqt74cq63&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1cp1sd2c2h]266|200[/hv]no further bidding from opps how do ppl bid opps acol we 2/1 eagles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 This may depend on what your agreement about X is in this sequence, for us, X=4♦, so 3♦ shows 5 intending to bid clubs next if partner doesn't support either of my suits. I can live with 4♥ also and think this is the best bid otherwise. It's a tricky hand as slam is decent if either hand has J♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 perhaps: 1c=p=1s=xp=2h=3d=p3nt=p=p=p option2=1c=p=1s=xp=2h=3d=p3nt=p=4d=p5d expect to miss slam very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 I strongly prefer pass to 2♣. I don't think you can avoid 6♣ now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 What mike said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 why is west in such a hurry to rebid k9xxx? as it is, i would bid 4h on the east hand, expecting west to hold a 2c bid. btw congratulations on your promotion from n/b, though i'm a little late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted June 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 haha thx btw our full bidding/hand I was East [hv=pc=n&s=skj753hk863d632ca&w=s2hat54da95ck9872&n=s64hqj972dj8cjt54&e=saqt98hdkqt74cq63&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=1cp1sd2c2h3dp4dp6cppp]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Mike's sequence 1 is fine. Why did West bid 2C rather than pass? This shows a much better suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantajon Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 [hv=pc=n&w=s2hat54da95ck9872&e=saqt98hdkqt74cq63&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1cp1sd2c2h]266|200[/hv]no further bidding from opps how do ppl bid opps acol we 2/1 eagles If I have to use the bidding as it proceeded...then I think I would choose 3h followed by 4d after west's 3nt call then we are on the way to 6d. But it would have been easier if east had started with 1d intending to reverse into spades on the second round of bidding....it does distort the hand pattern a little,but sets a game force at a lower level with the spade suit involved( usually)...also this will allow us to reach a 6d contract also...which is much better then 6c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 echoing hoggie here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Add another seconding the Hog's comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Why did West bid 2C rather than pass? This shows a much better suit. Exactly, in Acol you have to bid 2♣ over a pass, but the X gives you a free pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Exactly, in Acol you have to bid 2♣ over a pass, but the X gives you a free pass. I think EW are playing 2/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I think EW are playing 2/1.That shouldn't matter as west still needs a real suit to rebid an unforced 2♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I think EW are playing 2/1. Sorry yes but irrelevant here, same applies (why opps system matters is unclear as they don't use it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 That shouldn't matter as west still needs a real suit to rebid an unforced 2♣. I am not an expert on 2/1 but the boundary must shift or at least it should. It would be inefficient if it didn't. If the original 1♣ is a wider range (including in terms of distribution), it must be more efficient to make both pass and 2♣ wider ranges than after a natural (4+) 1♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I agree with the hog* about the 2c bid but that does notaddress the issue at hand....what to do over 2h. It seemsa GF 3d Does the best job here allowing for a wide array of possiblecontract depending on what openers hand looks like. I am neverhappy bidding 3n with ATxx in the opps suit especially when itseems p is short in that suit. Responder had a 3h bid availableif their hand only needed a heart stop for 3n and they did notbid that. The bidding from there would proceed 1c (p) 1s (x)2c* (2h) 3d p (no more opp bidding)3h asking for a partial stop in hearts4c has to be extra values since we bid 3d first instead of 3c4d showing support 4h looking for slam but not strong enough to take over and lettingopener know you are short in hearts so the heart ace is not as valuablea holding as say Jxx. 5c I hate to make this bid but if p has sufficient diamonds to go backto diamonds then we should be fine else this may be our last playable spot. pass or 5d favoring pass* since our club suit rates to be longer and strongeropener continues to show a minimum and with no spade cue and the x behind usmakes the spade suit look scary and we know p has something in hearts for 3h bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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