dickiegera Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 [hv=d=e&v=0&b=14&a=1dp1h1s3s]133|100[/hv] #1. Is 3♠ a splinter bid in support of Hearts?#2. What would 2♠ be?#3. How would you ask for spade stopper for NT? This was East's hand [hv=pc=n&e=s7hqj98dakq87ca98]133|100[/hv] What is best bid by east? 2♥,3♥,4♥,2♠,3♠ Or something else. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 East has a great hand in support of hearts. To begin with he has four card support to two honors plus great intermediates. Second, he has a great HCP with 16 and then 3 more distributional points in the form of a singleton spade. Add to that, a source of tricks in diamonds. His hand is clearly game force opposite the 1♥ response and it gets better when the ♠ overcall comes, suggesting partners HCP are more likely to be in clubs and hearts than spades. So we can eliminate 2♥ and 3♥ out of hand as neither of them are forcing. Four hearts would show game forcing values (which East has) but I would not choose it because it doesn't paint the picture you want your partner to see. Three spades as a splinter bid does exactly that. Now what does 2♠ and 3♠ (and even 4♦) means is open to partnership agreement. Some might play 3♠ as a request for partner to bid 3NT with a ♠-stopper. I play that with some partners, but most often and with most partners, 3♠ shows a hand something like this. The 2♠ bid would be forcing, but would not even necessarily promise support, just a great hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masse24 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 [hv=d=e&v=0&b=14&a=1dp1h1s3s]133|100[/hv] #1. Is 3♠ a splinter bid in support of Hearts?#2. What would 2♠ be?#3. How would you ask for spade stopper for NT? What is best bid by east? #1. Yes#2. No Trump query#3. (see #2) 3♥ is an underbid. So the choices are 4♥ or 3♠. I like 3♠ since you may as well describe the hand on the way to game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboxley Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 [hv=d=e&v=0&b=14&a=1dp1h1s3s]133|100[/hv] #1. Is 3♠ a splinter bid in support of Hearts?#2. What would 2♠ be?#3. How would you ask for spade stopper for NT? This was East's hand [hv=pc=n&e=s7hqj98dakq87ca98]133|100[/hv] What is best bid by east? 2♥,3♥,4♥,2♠,3♠ Or something else. Thank you 1. yes 2. strong hand, asking for further description, implies but does not promise ♠ support, denies requirements for a splinter (shortness and 4+ trumps) 3. 2♠. Although this doesn't specifically ask for a stopper, partner should show one if that is the most descriptive bid. Partner can also rebid ♥ with 5 or more, or lacking that, bid a new suit without a stop. 3♠ is the best bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovera Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 East has a great hand in support of hearts. To begin with he has four card support to two honors plus great intermediates. Second, he has a great HCP with 16 and then 3 more distributional points in the form of a singleton spade. Add to that, a source of tricks in diamonds. His hand is clearly game force opposite the 1♥ response and it gets better when the ♠ overcall comes, suggesting partners HCP are more likely to be in clubs and hearts than spades. So we can eliminate 2♥ and 3♥ out of hand as neither of them are forcing. Four hearts would show game forcing values (which East has) but I would not choose it because it doesn't paint the picture you want your partner to see. Three spades as a splinter bid does exactly that. Now what does 2♠ and 3♠ (and even 4♦) means is open to partnership agreement. Some might play 3♠ as a request for partner to bid 3NT with a ♠-stopper. I play that with some partners, but most often and with most partners, 3♠ shows a hand something like this. The 2♠ bid would be forcing, but would not even necessarily promise support, just a great hand.It's the first time i see jumping on this type of declaration (0/1 loser in the color of the opp overcall demonstrating strong hand). It seems to me there is possible a parallelism with Reese convention standing a color half-compact like diamond. I'm glad to see you again,bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 #2. What would 2♠ be?#3. How would you ask for spade stopper for NT? Thank you I have 2♠ defined as an "undetermined strong hand", forcing to game. The 2♠ bidder probably has no support: with support you bid at the appropriate level and/or splinter, as in this hand. Typically responder will bid NT in response to the 2♠ if he has a stop or otherwise continues to describe his hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 [hv=d=e&v=0&b=14&a=1dp1h1s3s]133|100[/hv] #1. Is 3♠ a splinter bid in support of Hearts?#2. What would 2♠ be?#3. How would you ask for spade stopper for NT?1. Yes2. A general game force, does not show or deny support, but denies a splinter, fit showing raises, etc.3. 2♠ Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 1. splinter is the default meaning.2. general force; my suggestion is to treat this the same way as you would fourth suit forcing.3. 2♠ will elicit this information.4. unless we cater to light responses, we would probably have rebid 3♠ without the interference; so it seems like a no-brainer to do so after the overcall when partner will often need to make another decision over 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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