mike777 Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 I thought betting lines mean the vig.... Many use betting lines, not use the vig. In fact many admit they are not betting. Please do not confuse betting lines which encourage you ...yes you to bet as equal to math, math to show other. fwiw doing math in public is tough. :) ------ The usa advancing at 76% is not the same as Germany kicking our buts. Not the same as Germany showing skill at the game of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 ?!? If I were into betting (I'm not), I would consider the probability that this match ends in a tie... well, let's be careful and say "above average". RikHaha I will remember this next time somebody asks me about a probability that is impossible to calculate: "above average" :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 lol@our defense. just garbage.im a huge demarcus beasley hater but he played an elite game. after we scored our first goal i said i'd be very happy with a tie, but jlall was adamant that we needed to shoot for a win. he was right obv.lolfournierFYP. Could you stop saying lolmexico already, there's a match against the Dutch coming up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 World Cup Tales>>>The Shame of Gijon 1982 http://twohundredpercent.net/?p=6088 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 For the record. I have no problem at all with Germany and the USA playing the ball around on their own half for 90 minutes. I wonder who agrees with me. The reason why I don't have a problem with that is that it could have been the other way around: Had Portugal won against Germany and had Ghana beaten the USA, they could play like that too. That was different in Gijon. Germany and Austria played after Algeria and Chile. If the results would have been reversed, Algeria and Chile could not have agreed to a 1-0 result since they wouldn't have known the result of the Germany - Austria game. A second reason why I don't have a problem with this is that Portugal knew this scenario too. Portugal knew before they started against the USA that a tie would not be enough since it would open up the possibility for a "Gijon scenario". So, they should have beaten the USA... and they didn't. The "new Algeria" (in comparison to Gijon) is Ghana. When they tied the Germans it was hard to foresee that Portugal and the USA would tie to lead to this. On the other hand, if you lose the first match, you should not be surprised that a tie in the second might lead to not advancing even if you would win the last match. This might be a reason to decide that the second group matches should be played simultaneously too. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 I'm very interested in the US - Germany game, not the least because of the relevance to the never-ending debates about sportsmanlike dumping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 FYP. Could you stop saying lolmexico already, there's a match against the Dutch coming up!You're resulting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 There will be no gijon-like non-attack treaty between the US and Germany - the incentives are just not right for it for the German team. Consider that The "shame of Gijon" is still in everybody's mind in Germany, and is a taint on the reputation of everyone who was involved;Germany is almost certain (>99%) to qualify, and thus all it can gain from an collusion isavoiding the mighty.....BELGIUM, andthey are confident they can beat the US in a fair match,there is just no way they will embarrass themselves for very little gain. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Italy vs Uruguay is on, how many red cards do you expect?B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Italy vs Uruguay is on, how many red cards do you expect?B-) One that won't happen, but I don't know what the result of it would be if it did. There is a number, I think it's 7 where if you get reduced to that many players the game is abandoned (and usually awarded to the opps 3-0 unless the score is worse). What happens if both teams are reduced to 7 by a multiple sending off ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 30 min remains. I dont understand Uruguays tactic. Both teams still play safety first, reasonably...for Italy...but for Urus? No power, no pressure , not much time for it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Can we please please ban Suarez for life? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Can we please please ban Suarez for life? Good idea. Ban him for life and discount all goals he has scored in this tournament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 the red given to the Italy was yellow one the red not given to Uruguay was purple thats all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 the red given to the Italy was yellow oneI thought it was barely a foul, not even a yellow. Can we please please ban Suarez for life?I agree but it won't happen. FIFA loves drama. They'll ban him maybe one game for show, then back to business as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 he was just hungry for wait for it... an italian sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) I thought it was barely a foul, not even a yellow.Sorry but you're way off here. This is not kickboxing. The Italian guy knew full well that that challenge is dangerous and had nothing to do with the ball. 100% clear red for me. goal.com, eurosport.com, and the Dutch commentators/experts all thought it was a clear sending-off, for what it's worth. edit: the Romanian newspaper also, however the Hungarian one said it was an "interesting" decision. edit 2: some more reaction, along a very convincing photo, here: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2108223-twitter-reacts-to-claudio-marchisios-red-card-vs-uruguay-in-2014-world-cup Of course Suarez should have been sent off. But this red card was every bit as clear to me. BTW, there should have been a penalty in the first half on Cavani being held from behind on a cross. It's just that referees never give these even though holding someone with both arms impedes them more than pulling their shirt with one hand. Edited June 24, 2014 by gwnn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Sorry but you're way off here. This is not kickboxing. The Italian guy knew full well that that challenge is dangerous and had nothing to do with the ball. 100% clear red for me. goal.com, eurosport.com, and the Dutch commentators/experts all thought it was a clear sending-off, for what it's worth. strange geman tv, german commentators/experts. german online media, all agreed this was never red one. Balotelli did the same in the 1st half, he did not get even a yellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Sorry but you're way off here. This is not kickboxing. The Italian guy knew full well that that challenge is dangerous and had nothing to do with the ball. 100% clear red for me. goal.com, eurosport.com, and the Dutch commentators/experts all thought it was a clear sending-off, for what it's worth. edit: the Romanian newspaper also, however the Hungarian one said it was an "interesting" decision. BBC say the challenge was studs up so was a red. Marchisio's studs were raised and made contact with the Uruguay midfielder close to his knee, leaving the referee with no option but to show him the red card. Of course Godin who scored the goal should have been suspended for the elbow in the England game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Of course Godin who scored the goal should have been suspended for the elbow in the England game.And who knows, his replacements could have scored 5 goals. Or imagine what had happened if Balotelli's parents never abandon him in the hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Sorry but you're way off here. This is not kickboxing. The Italian guy knew full well that that challenge is dangerous and had nothing to do with the ball. 100% clear red for me.Wait, are we talking about the same play? Balotelli's yellow looked like kickboxing, and maybe could have been a red IMO. But the red on Marchisio? I looked again at the video, and it does look like he raised his foot a little, but not even above the knee. OK, I guess can see yellow for that. But if they are giving a red for one of these plays, I would give it to Balotelli for sure. Soccer officiating always seems strange to me, maybe I just don't understand it well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Balotelli did the same in the 1st half, he did not get even a yellowTell me the minute and I can check. I saw the first half and saw nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Wait, are we talking about the same play? Balotelli's yellow looked like kickboxing, and maybe could have been a red IMO. But the red on Marchisio? I looked again at the video, and it does look like he raised his foot a little, but not even above the knee. OK, I guess can see yellow for that. But if they are giving a red for one of these plays, I would give it to Balotelli for sure. Soccer officiating always seems strange to me, maybe I just don't understand it well enough.It's not how high he raises his foot, it's what he's doing with it. It's just a cynical stamp, nothing to do with the ball, and he knows exactly what he is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Aha, saw the Balotelli card now. How can you possibly think that he "did the same"? He jumped for the ball and kicked someone accidentally in the process. It is still a dangerous action so I agree with the yellow. But you are saying he did not get a yellow, which minute was that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Tell me the minute and I can check. I saw the first half and saw nothing. Dont know the min. He flew very hig with body and leg into the U-player. A very dangerous move for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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