PhantomSac Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 man i feel old. would pass. So much this lol. 3C is just really awful, we have an ace and a king and 2 jacks, I agree with the poster who said x xxx JTxx KQJTx is fine, but you need an exceptional hand to preempt on a 5 card suit even third seat vul and this hand is not close to it. 1C is fine also to me, I don't think theres much between 1C and pass. The lighter you open in first the better 1C becomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 The preempt is not advised because of the ♠K and ♣A. That is two likely defensive tricks. Silly me, change the ♠K to small, I would bid 3♣. IT is quite ok to be crazy with hands like this at this vul, I do it all the time. But the preempt needs to be a true weak one, or a better suit. That is if you have a better quality hand, it is still ok to preempt, but don't have good defense and poor suit. You are just asking for trouble. The other day my student made a preemptive 2♥ overcall on xx AJ98x Axx Jx. He had way too much defense (not unlike the hand in the op, and not enough hearts. IF he had made a more normal 1♥ overcall the world would have been a much better place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 The only preempt I would consider is 1NT. I do not like 3♣, not because the hand (or suit) is too weak, but because I have too much defence. In this position and vulnerability requiring 7 clubs is poor - 6 clubs is fine and 5 very good ones with some shape and no defence is not off the rails. 7 spades and 10hcp is just not a possible hand for Opener to hold here imo. For reference, here are some suggestions of 3rd seat green 3♠ preempts from Robson/Segal:- ♠KQT9x ♥xxxx ♦x ♣Qxx♠KJT8x ♥- ♦Jxxxx ♣Qxx♠QJT8x ♥x ♦xxx ♣8xxx In general you should not go less pure than these, esepcially without prior agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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