dboxley Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Try for slam? I think THAT comment is absurd. As 3H is game invitational and not even forcing, why should a jump rebid be a slam try except in your fevered imagination?If you open 1H and rebid 2H is your pd going to find 3NT oppositeJxxx xx Axx AxxxI think any sane pd will pass. Whoops, just lost 12 Imps! Well, I just read the question again, so never mind. If 1♠ response shows 5-11 what response shows 12+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Well, I just read the question again, so never mind. If 1♠ response shows 5-11 what response shows 12+?Presumably they have inverted 1♠ and 1NT so 1NT would be forcing with spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 #1 3H, 2nd pos., red vs. green, the alternative being 1H, but 3H describes the hand nicely, assuming you and your partner agree, that this is a 3H opening bid. #2 if I opened 1H, I will rebid 2H, showing a min. opener and 6+ hearts With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 #1 3H, 2nd pos., red vs. green, the alternative being 1H, but 3H describes the hand nicely, assuming you and your partner agree, that this is a 3H opening bid. #2 if I opened 1H, I will rebid 2H, showing a min. opener and 6+ hearts With kind regardsMarlowe Uwe, that is not what you hold. You have 7 hearts and they are solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Uwe, that is not what you hold. You have 7 hearts and they are solid.I know. But our req. red vs. green in 2nd position are heavy, the hand is noteven a max. for us. In 1st seat, we would open this 4H.I would never call this standard, but in the end it does not matter aslong as partner knowes this as well and acts accordingly.With all others I would open 4H. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 I thought about this topic a bit more, and something occurred to me. Assume that the 3H opening shows six losers if red on white. If that's true, then there will be maybe four hand types that will qualify in theory. 1. 7 card suits with no side defense and thus solid2. 7 card suits with defense, and thus not solid3. 7 card suits with a side 4-card suit and thus not solif4. 8 card suits and thus not solid From that list, make what you will as far as conclusions. I suppose the 6-4 hand is possible, probably solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 1H followed by 3H. Looks obvious to me.Odd question and even more odd answers especially in the expert forum. These are answers I would expect in the B/I forum. I find myself in rare disagreement here 1h 2h seems correct mainly because of a theorywe keep trying to convince defenders to do---try to imagine a holding where your partnerbids 4h (and p hand is too weak to invite) and 4H is successful. If you do that I strongly feel you will find so few out of the many partner might choose (to bid 4h) in the long run you will probably agree that 2h is better than 3h though admittedly the 3h bid with this preemptive type hand might end up being a winner far more often than expected due to its rather formidable sounding roar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Im pretty convinced 3H is best. It show exactly the strenght of my hand & show where I live. It annoy the opponents by competing directly to the law level without promising defense. Yes 3NT might be better than 4H/3H but all the plus are more than adequate compensation. Note that 1H-1S-2H may easily miss a game that 3H would find. 1H-1S-3H is the worst of both world it has most of the downside of 3H but none of the preemptive upsides. Also people tend to forget the odds opps find a sucessful sac of a slow 4M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesh Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 I think 3♥ describes your hand precisely. The red vs green and 2nd position implies that you have a solid suit and even though you have Q♦ it doesnt make much of a difference. 1♥ - 2♥ will make it harder for your partner to know what to expect whereas opening 3♥ gives him as clear picture as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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