4H/6D

[straube]

I'm looking to get rid of our 10-15 4H/6+D hands with a 2N opening. We've done this with 4H/6+C hands before and like any preempt we usually do well with it.

 

When we used to bid 2N with clubs our continuations were...

.....3C-to play

.....3D-GF relay

.....3H-to play, always a fit and could be raised

.....3S-to play, could be raised

 

So with diamonds we gain a step if we want to relay

.....3C-relay? Or asking strength?

 

So that's my primary question. I could also do...

 

.....3C-relay

..........3D-min

...............no more relays

..........3H-max, higher

..........3S-max, 2461

..........etc

 

I've a second idea which is to put the high short hands into 2N openings and the low short hands in with the 2D opening, but I think this is confusing and I'd rather not go this direction. But if the other isn't playable...

 

2D-6D with possible 4C or possible 4H if low short

.....2H-GF asking

..........2S-4C or 4H if low short

...............2N-asking

....................3C-4C, high short

....................3D-4H low short

....................etc-4C, low short

[whereagles]

It should be easy to devise a structure for this opening. Since it's so shapely, game becomes more likely than usual, so I would advise some invites.

 

Here are some ideas:

 

2NT ..??

 

3♣ = relay. Can be e.g. invitational in diamonds (opener bids 3♥ if max), sign-off in hearts, GF with 6+ spades.

3♦ = to play

3♥ = nat invitational

3♠ = puppet to 3NT. To play or slam invite (follows up with 4♣/♦ with ♦/♥ fit)

4♣ = bonus step

4x = to play

 

 

2NT ..??

 

3♣ = puppet to 3♦. Sign-off or slammish in a red.

3♦/♥ = nat invitational

3♠ = nat GF 6+

3NT = to play

etc..

[Zelandakh]

3♣ as INV+ relay seems like a good start. Over a 3♦ (min) rebid you could use 3♠ as a GF relay if you wanted perhaps (3NT = short spades; 4♣ = 2461; 4♦ = 3460). Since this covers GF hands with spades, the immediate 3♠ response becomes a natural invite. Seems like it should be playable. Summary:

 

2NT

===

3♣ = INV+ relay

... - 3♦ = min

... - ... - 3♠ = GF relay

... - ... - ... - 3NT = short spades

... - ... - ... - 4♣ = 2461

... - ... - ... - 4♦ = 3460

... - 3♥ = max, short spades

... - 3♠ = max 2461

... - 3NT = max, 3460

3♦♥ = to play

3♠ = 6+ spades, INV

[straube]

Thank you both.