got a stopper

[Fluffy]

♠AJ108

♥-

♦A10643

♣KQ62

 

All vul, MPs

 

1♦-pass-1♥-1♠

??

[diana_eva]

I'd bid 2♣ because I think 1NT would encourage partner to think I hold a more balanced hand. He can still ask about spade stop later if we belong in NT. I wouldn't want to give up on a minor suit contract with that distribution. So 2C it is for now, let's see what happens next.

[the hog]

2C. Certainly not 1NT.Clearly not a ridiculous pass either, expecting to pass for penalties.

[manudude03]

At MPs, I'm passing this planning on converting a double to penalties. The problem with this is that it leaves us badly placed if partner bids 2H, if that happens, I think I bid 2NT. I think +100 vs +90, or +200 vs partscore is too likely for me to bid 2C.

[fromageGB]

With a natural diamond open, 2♣. You want to imply you may not have anything in hearts, and that you are not balanced.

With 1♦ showing an unbalanced hand, 1NT for us shows a 3-suiter short in partner's suit : perfect.

[MrAce]

2♣ or pass.

 

I'd pass.

[Cyberyeti]

X for me, we do not play support doubles, X shows 4 clubs, 2♣ shows 5. For us the diamond showed 4 and we open 1♦ with 4-4m whether we hold 4M or not.

[gszes]

If I choose to pass p will realize I probably have one of two hand types==

 

boring balanced and weak (my normal hand by far) or a hand that has made

a penalty pass. The downside of the pass is that p will have a tendency

to bid 2h playing me for the boring balanced hand simply because this is

a game of %. If I were instead to choose

 

2c

 

While I may be giving up on a possible big penalty I can now pass a 2h bid

with little fear since p knows I may be very short. This is a very reasonable

trade off at MP where not getting into a poor 2h contract is just about as

important as hoping to collect a big penalty. At IMPS I might be more tempted

to pass and hope for the penalty.

[whereagles]

Canonical 2♣.

 

Not pass because that would encourage partner to think you have a balanced 12-14, in which case he will bid a confident 2♥ on a moth-eaten 5 carder.

Not 1NT because of [see above].

Not dbl (unless you play it as penalties).

 

So 2♣, which, by showing 9+ cards in the minors, also conveys the message "I'm not too fond on playing hearts. Proceed at your own risk".

[neilkaz]

Canonical 2♣.

 

Not pass because that would encourage partner to think you have a balanced 12-14, in which case he will bid a confident 2♥ on a moth-eaten 5 carder.

Not 1NT because of [see above].

Not dbl (unless you play it as penalties).

 

So 2♣, which, by showing 9+ cards in the minors, also conveys the message "I'm not too fond on playing hearts. Proceed at your own risk".

 

2♣ seems clear to me.

[Fluffy]

If you choose 2♣ partner will correct to 2♦, next decision is yours

[diana_eva]

Pass. That ♥ void doesn't make me happy, plus it's MPs so not going to stretch on a misfit. I don't think I'd stretch at IMPs either TBH. I don't expect much with partner. He didn't try for NT, he didn't jump to 3♦. Also, regretting I didn't pass for penalties but such is life :)

[mike777]

If you choose 2♣ partner will correct to 2♦, next decision is yours

 

 

 

2s

 

so far easy

[akwoo]

Pass. I agree with diana_eva, plus there's still the chance for LHO to make a very delayed raise with Qx in spades.

[mike777]

1) I have a huge hand pard will never play me for this

2) I limited my self I did not rebid 3c

3) I could have so much less.

3) I do not raise hearts

 

 

so 2s now. easy

[Trinidad]

If you choose 2♣ partner will correct to 2♦, next decision is yours

Pass. 14 HCPs, no fit. What else do you want?

 

To me, these decisions (2♣ followed by pass) are so obvious that I am wondering why this wasn't posted in the Expert forum. ;)

 

Rik

[fromageGB]

2NT

 

I think this (coupled with the earlier 2♣) describes the hand, in terms of both distribution and strength. I am not delighted to play in diamonds on a mere preference, and we are as likely to make as many tricks in NT. Partner will hopefully have passive stops in hearts, and I think this is a better contract. It also allows partner the opportunity to bid game with a better than minimum hand.

 

2♠ I would take as merely an unassuming cue bid (in the literal sense) and while forcing, does not describe the hand.

Pass, while possibly being the only positive score, seems to be aiming too low.

[the hog]

After 2D I pass, what else?

 

"I have a huge hand"

Where is it? Did I drop some cards on the floor?

[Zelandakh]

"I have a huge hand"

Where is it? Did I drop some cards on the floor?

Opposite ♠x ♥xxxx ♦Kxxxx ♣Axx it is huge; opposite a more mundane hand with wastage in hearts not so much. The fact that the hand has been posted by Fluffy suggests that partner's hand might be along these lines.

[diana_eva]

Opposite ♠x ♥xxxx ♦Kxxxx ♣Axx it is huge; opposite a more mundane hand with wastage in hearts not so much. The fact that the hand has been posted by Fluffy suggests that partner's hand might be along these lines.

 

I think a hand like that shd bid 3♦, not 2. THAT is a huge hand after 1♦ 2♣.

[mike777]

ok so what do would you take 2s as here?

 

for me this..

 

otoh perhaps 2s is much much more but less than 3c over 1h?

 

again I assume 2c limited my hand ..yes?

 

fwiw granted I open on pure crap so that may matter.

[diana_eva]

ok so what do would you take 2s as here?

 

for me this..

 

otoh perhaps 2s is much much more but less than 3c over 1h?

 

For one thing I think it should show a much better diamond suit. After all we know we're likely in a 5-2 fit.

[Zelandakh]

I think a hand like that shd bid 3♦, not 2. THAT is a huge hand after 1♦ 2♣.

In that case change ♣Axx to ♣JTx or switch it to 1552.

[whereagles]

over 2♦ it's a clear pass... if pard decides to bean-count on hands like x xxxx Kxxxx Axx.. well, that's life.

[Fluffy]

Opposite ♠x ♥xxxx ♦Kxxxx ♣Axx it is huge; opposite a more mundane hand with wastage in hearts not so much. The fact that the hand has been posted by Fluffy suggests that partner's hand might be along these lines.

 

Was just wondering, because I didn't think either action 2♣ or pass was clear, the hand doesn't matter at all, I made +190 in 2♦, but partner's 9 count is closer to a slam try than to a preference. (♠Kx ♥Kxxx ♦Kxxxx ♣xx)