akhare Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 IMPs (7 board matches), vul. vs. NV. RHO dealer: [hv=pc=n&s=sa98742h74dat4cj3&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=2h(Weak%202)pp2sp3h4cpp4s5cpp]133|200[/hv] The opponents don't have any special agreements on 4♣ and it's natural without any inference on ♥ support. On a side note, do you agree with 3♥ or would you have simply bid game in spades? Would you bid differently if you were playing a longer match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 I'll pass. I don't think we're in a force. Partner didn't compete to 4S and didn't double 5C. Curious that LHO passes 2H and then bids clubs. I expect he thinks he is saving, but maybe the cards are situated such that it's making or down 1. I doubt we're making 5S. I think I'd prefer 4S to 3H initially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Double for me. 2 Aces are to much to pass imo and I know they can not redouble. About forcing pass, it depends on agreements I guess. They are white and we are red, they stayed in part score and then they bid at 5 level after we bid our game. If they are making it they will make doubled but I do not rely on forcing pass when doubling them, even though some may play this as forcing pass auction, which is reasonable btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Just pass. LHO was guessing, and he can make anything from 10 to 13 tricks in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Hi, 5S. 3H should create a FP, partner cant double,I cant it either. If I dont want to bid 5S now, I should have bid4S instead of 3H, which I dont like at all. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 given the bidding it would hardly be unreasonable for p to hold 3 and possibly even 4 hearts. Imagine p with a min 2s balance say KQJxx Axxx xx x this hand will not accept your game invite yet yourside will not go down more than 1 in 5s while the opps probably rollhome in 5c. It is a tad scary to consider bidding 5s since we are anything but certain we can set 6c but the way the bidding has goneit seems an unlikely position for the opps to take and I know I ama ton happier if can x them in 6c rather than 5c:))))))))))))))))))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Here's the hand... [hv=pc=n&s=s63haqjt6dq62c852&w=sa98742h74dat4cj3&n=sh82dkj93caqt9764&e=skqjt5hk953d875ck&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=2hpp2sp3h4cpp4s5cpp]399|300[/hv] I have a few questions for the forum. Does the 3H bid by this hand that has passed promise a good raise or can it be an awkward hand without a fit or stop? Is there a standard treatment or is this a partnership agreement? I personally would rather sacrifice a 4H splinter and use 3H as no fit/values, 3S as a raise, 4m as fit-showing and 4H as a good raise to 4S. Or switch 4C and 4H around even better. If 3H is just a better raise to 3S, it ought not create a force. If it is a bid that promises a rebid, then it ought to create a force in case next hand bids 5C or whatever. Seeing as how balancer neither doubled or bid 4S over 4C, should a force (if it ever existed) still be on? What's the need really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 3♥ promises a fit, it is the strong raise, as oposed to 3♠ with will be 9-11 or so. counting 2 aces on defence with 11+ spades is counting badly. I hope 5♠ outscores 5♣, they cannot be sure of anything on this bidding I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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