1eyedjack Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 [hv=sn=1eyedjack&s=SAT6HAQ953DQT7CJ2&wn=Robot&w=S42H6DA8543CAQT95&nn=Robot&n=SQ9753HKJ2DK6C864&en=Robot&e=SKJ8HT874DJ92CK73&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1H(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20%21H%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B)P1S(One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%206+%20total%20points)PPD(4+%20%21C%3B%204+%20%21D%3B%205-%20%21H%3B%205-%20%21S%3B%2012-16%20total%20points)PPP&p=D2D7DAD6D8DKD9DTS3SJSAS4H3H6HKH8S5SKS6S2C7C2CAC4CQC6C3CJD5S9DJDQS7S8STC5H5D4HJH7H2H4HACTHQC9C8HTH9D3SQCK]380|270[/hv] Is it unreasonable to expect GIB to be able to cope with the opponents passing a forcing bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgi Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Looks like rare case as main behavior of GIB is moving in 2♣ ( even after simulating pass is not competitive call ). Would be investigated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted April 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Yes I guess it could just be a sim hiccough. I can visualise a hand or two where passing works. It is still a horrible pass, mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 What would 1NT by West, instead of the double, have shown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgi Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 1NT would be: -- 5+ ♣; 5+ ♦; 3- ♥; 3- ♠; 11-16 total points; forcing But based on unfavorable vulnerability it needs 14-16TP With favorable vulnerability it would bid 2NT immediately. Also later if there is such a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Ok, at unfavorable vulnerability:1H-P-1S-P-P-1NT shows 14-16. What would 1H-1NT show at unfavorable vulnerability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 What would 1H-1NT show at unfavorable vulnerability?A srong NT hand with hearts stopped. Did you mean 1H-2NT? Or P-P-P-1H-1NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) A srong NT hand with hearts stopped. Did you mean 1H-2NT? Or P-P-P-1H-1NT?Yes, I'm sorry. I meant a direct unusual NT. edit: West twice chose not to bid Unusual, and I'm just trying to figure out what those two opportunities would have shown. Edited April 20, 2014 by Bbradley62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 Direct Unusual 2NT needs 12 total points non-vul, 15 TP vul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 What would 1NT by West, instead of the double, have shown?1NT would be: -- 5+ ♣; 5+ ♦; 3- ♥; 3- ♠; 11-16 total points; forcing But based on unfavorable vulnerability it needs 14-16TP With favorable vulnerability it would bid 2NT immediately. Also later if there is such a chance. Direct Unusual 2NT needs 12 total points non-vul, 15 TP vul.So, with unfavorable vulnerability, direct shows 15+TP and the second time around would show exactly 14? Seems incredibly specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 1NT would be: -- 5+ ♣; 5+ ♦; 3- ♥; 3- ♠; 11-16 total points; forcing But based on unfavorable vulnerability it needs 14-16TP With favorable vulnerability it would bid 2NT immediately. Also later if there is such a chance. still would pick 1N over double as the explanation for double by a passed hand was 12-16 pts, last time I checked I open those hands lol At least 1N shows 5-5 in the minors so you'll end up in the right suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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