Cyberyeti Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 [hv=pc=n&s=shaq8762dj5caj962&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1h4spp]133|200[/hv] your bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamHenry Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Options are pass, double, 4N, 5C, 6C. I rule out 6C and 4N quite quickly; I'm settling for 5c though I'm tempted by both X and pass. Not 100% clear to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 This is the sort of hand it's better be lucky than good. 5♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Pass for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfa1010 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 5♣ every day in the week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Cyber, you know damn well that nothing is % 100 clear after heavy preempts.http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Cyber, you know damn well that nothing is % 100 clear after heavy preempts.http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif Well there was only one course of action (bidding or not) that I would consider, but I'm known as somewhat eccentric, partner chose the other action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 I do the same as mfa1010. Unfortunately not often enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 This is an obvious double, partner is trap passing, and on the unlikely event that he is not I hope he is good enough to bid 4NT with 5-4 minors, or 2-5 reds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 This is an obvious double, partner is trap passing, and on the unlikely event that he is not I hope he is good enough to bid 4NT with 5-4 minors, or 2-5 reds. What do you expect partner to do over this double if 33(34) or (23)44 with 5/8/11 points ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 What do you expect partner to do over this double if 33(34) or (23)44 with 5/8/11 points ? Pass ? Though it may depend on his spade holdings This is an obvious double, partner is trap passing, Pd may hold a lot of other hands to pass before trap passing. Our reasonable options are-Pass-Double-5♣ I really don't like opener's DBL at the 4 level when he already opened and holds minimum hand, and no take out shape either, even though I am aware it may be the winning action. Why do we want to bid ? Because we have extra strength or extra shape ? Answer is obvious, if I am going to bid I will tell pd why I am bidding and which values he has, if any, are good for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Sounds like a job for cute sayings. 6-5 come alive! When in doubt, bid one more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 This one is 100% clear, though not in 100% of all cases successful Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 This one is 100% clear, though not in 100% of all cases successful Rainer Herrmann100% clear either means your choice is so obvious you don't need to say it....or it means you are having fun with us. It is nearly 100% clear that when I bid 5C it won't go P P P thereafter; and a tossup whether anything which happens :rolleyes:thereafter will be good. But, that's what I probably would do. Saving 4N (delay unusual) here for the 7-5 :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 100% clear either means your choice is so obvious you don't need to say it....or it means you are having fun with us. Why should I have fun with you? :D Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfa1010 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 100% clear either means your choice is so obvious you don't need to say it....or it means you are having fun with us. It is nearly 100% clear that when I bid 5C it won't go P P P thereafter; and a tossup whether anything which happens thereafter will be good. But, that's what I probably would do. So is this so obvious that you don't need to say why, or are you having fun with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 I would bid 5♣ every day of the week that ends in a "y." As Rainer said, it is 100% clear, but is not in 100% of the cases successful. This is a tougher problem at matchpoints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 So is this so obvious that you don't need to say why, or are you having fun with us?Maybe. But, Someone is likely to do something. Partner goes back to Hearts or raises Clubs. RHO wheels the ax or pushes in Spades. Your guess as to the success for us when this occurs. My Partner will hold JXXX XX KXXXX JX more than yours will, but I keep pretending I am Linus holding the football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 OK, so you bid 5♣, the 4♠ bidder bids 5♦, partner doubles, RHO bids 5♠ I presume you pass and partner is in the hot seat with: xx, 109x, KQxx, K10xx Any suggestions ? (also do you really remove a double of 4♠ with this, may not play great opposite partner's big balanced) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 OK, so you bid 5♣, the 4♠ bidder bids 5♦, partner doubles, RHO bids 5♠ I presume you pass and partner is in the hot seat with: xx, 109x, KQxx, K10xx Any suggestions ? (also do you really remove a double of 4♠ with this, may not play great opposite partner's big balanced)If your point is that partner may have some problems later in the auction, all I can say is that is certainly possible. But that is not the problem that was presented to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 OK, so you bid 5♣, the 4♠ bidder bids 5♦, partner doubles, RHO bids 5♠ I presume you pass and partner is in the hot seat with: xx, 109x, KQxx, K10xx Any suggestions ? (also do you really remove a double of 4♠ with this, may not play great opposite partner's big balanced) Big balanced hands without spade doubleton would pass. Partner would have a big problem with that hand and I wouldn't blame him for missguessing. Might even win some 4 IMPs for +100/-50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 If your point is that partner may have some problems later in the auction, all I can say is that is certainly possible. But that is not the problem that was presented to us. It's as much a story as a problem, seriously sub-optimal results were obtained at both tables which I'll reveal later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Pard would have bid 6C over 5D rather than Doubling, to put the ball back in their court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 what's the Vul? I think both NV from diagram. is it MPs or IMPs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 It's as much a story as a problem, seriously sub-optimal results were obtained at both tables which I'll reveal later.It is usually right to bid one more at IMPs. But both you and the opps have already done that. Now is the time to start doubling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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