What's your call?

[mycroft]

If partner failed to alert the 2♥ call, jumped to 4♥, and I passed, I'd expect a scream for the TD. Whether it was right or not.

 

I do think there is a LA to 4♠; but it sure isn't Pass. It's undiscussed in my Precision system, too, but:

- 2♥ is natural after 1NT and triggers asking bids;

- 1NT is GF, so I would take 1♣-1NT;2♣-2♥;3♥-whatever;4♥ as "I was interested in more if you had 4 hearts, partner" (probably) - either that or ...2NT-whatever; correct 3NT to 4♥.

 

Partner has way too many ways to reject spades and insist on hearts for a "oh, that's unfortunate" jump to 4♥ to be reasonable.

 

In addition to the correction of the lack of Alert of 2♥, if 4♥ is potentially Alertable, then before the opening lead it should have been Delayed Alerted "Undiscussed, but could be shortness slam try" or whatever.

[whereagles]

I can hardly believe pard has a 6-4 majors. And even if he has one, why didn't he bid 2♠ when he heard of the fit? 4♥ as natural, to play, makes absolutely no sense to me.

 

So it's either

1) pard forgot 2♥ was spades (I dunno how likely this is...)

2) pard has spade fit and is making some muddy move (in which case I'll have a little talk with him in the end)

 

If 1) is unlikely, then I would not pass.

[CSGibson]

That system criticism is open for debate. 1N as a response to 1C has to mean something (or would you forbid responder to bid NTs?), and even though a balanced hand is frequent, being balanced means that the wrongsiding is much-much less bad on average than if 1N was some unbalanced type with some shortage(s). The actual hand is fine as declarer for instance, with honours in every suit to get the lead around to.

 

I may have been a bit over the top, but again, I don't see evidence of sensible system agreements so I don't want to assume them.

 

Just as a side FYI, I strongly favor a transfer-style precision, with 1N being a heart positive (1S as balanced or clubs), as I feel that wrongsides far fewer contracts on average, even if there are a few circumstances where it does wind up wrong-siding.

[dboxley]

4NT

4H is a splinter and all my cards are working, hopefully partner can take over from here and maybe bid GSF.

[blackshoe]

I would interpret 4♥ as a splinter. And I would not stop bidding below 6♠, given that I am dead max with nothing wasted in hearts, 2 controls and the most distributional hand I can have. If I would have an ace, I would cue it. I don't have an ace, so I would simply bid 6♠.

 

As a TD, I would adjust to 6♠-2. Leaving the decision to the club owner is the last thing I would do.

 

Rik

I guess I forgot to mention that the club owner in this case is one of the best TDs in the area. He's also a college professor, so doesn't run his afternoon games when he's working.

[blackshoe]

I can hardly believe pard has a 6-4 majors. And even if he has one, why didn't he bid 2♠ when he heard of the fit? 4♥ as natural, to play, makes absolutely no sense to me.

 

So it's either

1) pard forgot 2♥ was spades (I dunno how likely this is...)

2) pard has spade fit and is making some muddy move (in which case I'll have a little talk with him in the end)

 

If 1) is unlikely, then I would not pass.

What would you do if 1) is likely?