dkham Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 [hv=pc=n&s=sjt98hk7dq82cq863&n=skq6haj643d4cak74]133|200[/hv] It's IMP scoring and no one is vulnerable. You've made it to 4♠, after no opposition bidding. West leads a trump, the ♠2. What's your plan for ten tricks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 [hv=pc=n&s=sjt98hk7dq82cq863&n=skq6haj643d4cak74]133|200[/hv] It's IMP scoring and no one is vulnerable. You've made it to 4♠, after no opposition bidding. West leads a trump, the ♠2. What's your plan for ten tricks? The trump lead means that you won't have enough tricks to play for a cross ruff.No choice but to go after the hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I play a h to the j at trick 2. Why? It looks like I may have entry problems and I need the h king as an entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Diam ruff in the short trump hand could be your 10th trick . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Diam ruff in the short trump hand could be your 10th trick .There is a flaw.Opp may lead a third round of trump, thus eliminating the Diam ruff.You could still try for the ruff, but you may have to fallback on the Ht finesse . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 The auction matters - I need to know what West knew when he led a low trump. On the assumption that North opened 1♥, West is either short in hearts or has them well held himself. Since I probably can't make it in the former case, I will play West for QTxx or similar. I will need more luck than that - I need trumps to be 3-3 in most scenarios. So: Trick 1 - ♠K, assuming that holds ...trick 2 - ♦ How things go from there is up to the defence. If they win and play trump trump, I will go with my original read and take the heart finesse. This may lead to an overtrick or down two. If they continues diamonds, I need to be careful, but essentially I can always get home if my read is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkham Posted April 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1hp1sp2cp3cp3dp3hp3sp3np4sppp]133|100[/hv] In response to PhilKing, here's the full auction. 3♦ was Fourth Suit Forcing.I think by the end we've both shown our full shape - North has shown exactly 3514 (or maybe has a 5th Club) and South exactly 4234 with a poor Diamond stop. If you play the ♠K on the first trick it does hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Moysians are usually played via the side suit. So ♠K, ruff a heart and take it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maumag Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I play for spade 3-3, clubs 3-2 and heart 4-2 so i suppose to have 9 triks 3 spade, 2 heart, 4 clubs, i need only 1 trick, so i play K and A of heart and heart and i discard a daimod. Now the defence can play daimod and daimond and i cut in dummy my 10 tricks, or play spade and i cut another heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I play for spade 3-3, clubs 3-2 and heart 4-2 so i suppose to have 9 triks 3 spade, 2 heart, 4 clubs, i need only 1 trick, so i play K and A of heart and heart and i discard a daimod. Now the defence can play daimod and daimond and i cut in dummy my 10 tricks, or play spade and i cut another heart. They just play a fourth round of hearts, tapping the long hand, whilst the other defender pitches clubs. You are at least two off now, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 [hv=pc=n&s=sjt98hk7dq82cq863&n=skq6haj643d4cak74]133|200| It's IMP scoring and no one is vulnerable. You've made it to 4♠, after no opposition bidding. West leads a trump, the ♠2. What's your plan for ten tricks?[/hv][hv=pc=n&s=sjt98hk7dq82cq863&w=sa72hqt98dkjt7cJT&n=skq6haj643d4cak74&e=s543h52dA9653c952&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1hp1sp2cp3cp3dp3hp3sp3np4sppp&p=s2sks3s8]300|300| The ♠ lead is usually the best defence. Philkings line seems reasonable.Gib shows you can make against some 4-2 major breaks. e.g.v1 4♠ makes on any lead[/hv][hv=pc=n&s=sjt98hk7dq82cq863&w=sa742hqt98dkj7cJT&n=skq6haj643d4cak74&e=s53h52dAT9653c952&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1hp1sp2cp3cp3dp3hp3sp3np4sppp&p=s2sks3s8]300|300|v2 4♠ still makes on any lead[/hv][hv=pc=n&s=sjt98hk7dq82cq863&w=s42hqt98dkj87cJT9&n=skq6haj643d4cak74&e=sA753h52dAT965c52&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1hp1sp2cp3cp3dp3hp3sp3np4sppp&p=s2sks3s8sqs4s9sa]300|300|v3 Only a ♠ lead defeats 4♠[/hv][hv=pc=n&s=sjt98hk7dq82cq863&w=s42hqt98dkjt87cJT&n=skq6haj643d4cak74&e=sA753h52dA965c952&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1hp1sp2cp3cp3dp3hp3sp3np4sppp&p=s2sks3s8]300|300|v4 4♠ makes on any lead.[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcilkley Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 [hv=pc=n&s=sjt98hk7dq82cq863&n=skq6haj643d4cak74]133|200[/hv] It's IMP scoring and no one is vulnerable. You've made it to 4♠, after no opposition bidding. West leads a trump, the ♠2. What's your plan for ten tricks? You have all the top spades bar the ace so you lose nothing by playing for the diamond ruff. Should be 3 spade tricks, 2 hearts, 4 clubs and the !d ruff to make 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 You have all the top spades bar the ace so you lose nothing by playing for the diamond ruff. Should be 3 spade tricks, 2 hearts, 4 clubs and the !d ruff to make 10Opp may not let you take a Diam ruff .[♠A and another ... in with ♦ for a possible 3rd ♠ lead ] . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 You have all the top spades bar the ace so you lose nothing by playing for the diamond ruff. Should be 3 spade tricks, 2 hearts, 4 clubs and the !d ruff to make 10 Except you won't get your D ruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Except you won't get your D ruff. But he has indadvertantly kept himself in the game - when the defence clear trumps, he will have to resort to plan B. A ♦ at trick two keeps us on the tightrope, and we have a (potentially winning) counter whatever they do next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkham Posted April 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Here's the full deal: [hv=pc=n&s=sjt98hk7dq82cq863&w=s52ht52dkj95cjt95&n=skq6haj643d4cak74&e=sa743hq98dat763c2&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=p1hp1sp2cp3cp3dp3hp3sp3np4sppp]399|300[/hv] West lead the ♠2. As you can see, trumps are 4-2, Clubs are 4-1, and the Heart finesse is offisde (but they are 3-3). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 [hv=pc=n&s=sjt98hk7dq82cq863&w=s52ht52dkj95cjt95&n=skq6haj643d4cak74&e=sa743hq98dat763c2&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=p1hp1sp2cp3cp3dp3hp3sp3np4sppp&p=s2sk{Come on East! Third hand high! Aces are meant for taking Kings!}]399|400| Here's the full deal:West lead the ♠2.As you can see, trumps are 4-2, Clubs are 4-1, and the Heart finesse is offisde (but they are 3-3).[/hv] Gib warns us that prospects are bleak, especialy on a ♠ lead, unless RHO makes the mistake of playing ♠A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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