VAndy, bd 64, round of 32

[mike777]

An old buddy of mine had this hand.

 

Bd 64 round of 32, Dallas Vandy

 

 

red vs white

 

(1s)=x=(4s)=?

 

Ax...xxx...KQ9xx...9xx

 

opp are at 4s, your call?

[FM75]

Board 64.. What was the score after 48? What do we estimate the score is to this board?

 

What would p, X, 4N be in our PA?

[mike777]

Board 64.. What was the score after 48? What do we estimate the score is to this board?

 

What would p, X, 4N be in our PA?

 

You may assume this board decides the match if need be.

[whereagles]

Pass. There's a chance 4♠ goes off, and this makes a 5♦ bid a one-trick pony.

 

5♦ won't make unless pard has extras, in which case he might well double 4♠ (we pull to 5♦ then).

[gszes]

5d

 

if p wants to go to 6 I doubt they will be upset with my hand, If p

is minimum we are not a favorite to make but then maybe the opps are

favored to make 4s. I know I would be one heck of a lot happier if

we can push the non vul opps to 5s before x. I view the 5d bid as

somewhat low risk with high possible reward so at IMPS that seems

a reasonable overall strategy. The downside is if the match is even

I remain uncertain if we will net more positive results by bidding

or passing and I suspect passing will come out ahead but it just

seems so wrong here with the non vul opps probably ready willing and

waiting to bid 5s:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) We will never

miss a slam by bidding 5d but we sure might if we pass and I hate that

idea.

[Fluffy]

Competing with balanced hands at the 5 level is not a good tactic. I think we should even pass partner's next double although it is close.

[PhilKing]

If only someone had a database which could provide hands from top-level competition where this sequence has occurred ...

[bluecalm]

If only someone had a database which could provide hands from top-level competition where this sequence has occurred ...

 

I have 122 such hands. In 72 of them there was a pass after 4S.

Remaining 50 are here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/y3dktdmz9l1j4ki/1SX4Snppart0.lin

[FM75]

I am passing. LOTT (as my excuse - or support - as it works out).

 

The same problem likely exists at the other table. If the state of the match is "even to slightly unclear". I want to defend.

 

 

 

[bluecalm]

As to the hand I would double. I don't think they make often enough and I want partner to act with stuff like 0-4-4-5 which he often won't without the double.

[the hog]

0455 is in fact a poor shape for our hands as the SA is waste paper in offence. I am bidding 5D, and expect to have a reasonable play.

[helene_t]

I double. I expect partner generally to pull with a singleton and leave it in with a doubleton. If double doesn't mean this then I pass.

 

Maybe a disadvantage of double is that partner is more likely to make an aggressive lead if we double, expecting some strength in my hand. I think a trump lead could work well here (partner won't find the diamonds lead anyway).

[ggwhiz]

I find this one really tough.

 

It's good positionally but the 4♠ bidder doesn't always have 5 so Ax opposite 2 in pards hand would hurt. So would being on an 8-card diamond fit.

 

I'm going to double to show a pulse and cross my fingers.

 

Opposite a typical lower end double a couple of round suit jacks on my right could sink us and partner may be able to move knowing I have some values. Passing feels either wimpy or if partner doubles again I'm deciding on offence or defense and I want partner (as much as possible) to make that choice.

 

As per Fluffy above, pass then decide over a 2nd double is close (too close for my liking) but partners choice over a direct double may be clearer. Maybe not.

[mike777]

Ok thanks for all the replies. Here is the rest of the story.

 

"It was true ugliness.

 

 

 

I held Ax xxx KQ9xx 9xx. It went 1S-double-4S to me and I bid 5D red vs white, probably not right with so many losers but I thought that either 4S or 5D would likely make. The 4S bidder had a bunch of defense an doubled me. They had 500 but let me out for 200 (they claimed my questions about their carding misled them, but the defense was pretty easy). 4S would have made if pard led a club from Qxxxx rather than from his AJ9x of hearts or his ATxx of diamonds. Our teammates bid 5S over 5D and went for 300. We thus lost 11 IMPs on this board to lose the match by 7."

[the_clown]

It looks like automatic double for me, if forced to do something else I would probably pass.

[mfa1010]

I think I would double, but having minimum. I much prefer pass to 5♦. 5♦ looks very desperate and could go for a huge number if we buy a bad dummy. X will occasionally concede 590, but that is only 5 imps away, no big deal at all. X is not penalty.