Lord Molyb Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Overbid to 3NT"So, the contract is 2NT?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Overbid to 3NT"So, the contract is 2NT?"There is a real life case from my youth when we were playing against someone who was known to us (although perhaps not to her partner) for tediously and predictably "correcting" the contract back to 2N (ha ha ha) after being doubled in 3N. She stopped doing it after S.....W.....N......E1D...P....1S.....P1N...P....2N.....P3N...X....P.......P2N!...P!..P!!....P 2N +2(I had no particular defence when doubling)To be fair to North, I might not have corrected back to 3N myself 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 There is a real life case from my youth when we were playing against someone who was known to us (although perhaps not to her partner) for tediously and predictably "correcting" the contract back to 2N (ha ha ha) after being doubled in 3N. She stopped doing it after S.....W.....N......E1D...P....1S.....P1N...P....2N.....P3N...X....P.......P2N!...P!..P!!....P 2N +2(I had no particular defence when doubling)To be fair to North, I might not have corrected back to 3N myself I don't know why, but this auction reminds me of an unopposed auction we had years ago 1♠-1♦-1♥-1♠ with the curious effect that partner managed to terminate the auction at the 1 level and not declare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 RHO cue-bids a suit your side has bid. "My lead?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 RHO cue-bids a suit your side has bid. "My lead?" On similar lines to this, pre bidding boxes, partner leaps to 6♣ RHO says incredulously "6♣!" "double" says I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Overbid to 3NT"So, the contract is 2NT?"I always see that one level down.1♦-1♥;1NT-2NT; AP. "so, 1NT?" re the IB cases: I still remember the call where the auction went 1NT-p-1NT-"Director, please". After explaining everything, they accepted the call, and I went away. "Director, please" "yes?" "We passed it out. Who's declarer?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 "Dummy must not participate in the play, nor may he communicate anything about the play to declarer." -- Law 43A1{c}."Dummy is liable to penalty under Law 90 for any violation of the limitations listed in A1 and A2 above." -- Law 43B1."In view of the second quoted law, if you do this again, you will receive a procedural penalty in match points or IMPs. Do you understand? Okay, please play on". Whatever. If you seriously believe that calling the director when dummy has played, of his own accord, a singleton on the opening lead, well there is no law against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Forgot one of the classics: "Grossly underbid". Said when you bid a normal part-score that makes enough tricks for game, or a game that makes slam, because of an extremely favorable lie of the cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellSpyder Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Forgot one of the classics: "Grossly underbid". Said when you bid a normal part-score that makes enough tricks for game, or a game that makes slam, because of an extremely favorable lie of the cards."Bid up, partner", is my partner's usual comment in these circumstances. I can live with it (though I don't see the need for it!) when the un-bid game or slam makes because of an extremely lucky lie of the cards. I don't think it really helps people enjoy the game when it is the result of incompetent defence, however... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 I don't think it really helps people enjoy the game when it is the result of incompetent defence, however...I would never say it then. And on BBO, I don't appreciate when an opponent writes "wdp" when we gave them a gift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 I would never say it then. And on BBO, I don't appreciate when an opponent writes "wdp" when we gave them a gift.Dummy often says that when Declarer has managed to hang on to nine of his eleven tricks, and probably doesn't realize the humor in what he is saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olegru Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Me: "Sorry, partner, I guess I underbid" (putting down hand with 1 point after bidding 1NT - all pass).Partner: "Sure you did." (wrapping 11 tricks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 "I hope it's enough" when you put down a dummy at the high end of the range for your bidding. "Don't make too much"; this can be said honestly when you think you may have underbid and missed a reasonable game or slam, or sarcastically when you think you've overbid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 "Don't make too much"; this can be said honestly when you think you may have underbid and missed a reasonable game or slam, or sarcastically when you think you've overbid.This and other "directions" to declarer, while they mean no harm, should be carefully avoided. They could become participation in the play. This particular one might alert partner of the possibility you are in an anti-field conservative contract and possibly should play the hand in an anti-percentage or super-safe manner. "Relax, take your time.", IMO, should be avoided as well. Yeh, I know... I am raining on the parade of this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 And remember the NT ladder (for when it's a final contract):1 No Hope2 No Chance3 No Play... I once gaffed a bidding box with those calls for a midnight KO. Nobody - including my partner, at least the first time - knew it was coming (as I always bring my left-handed box along). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Whatever. If you seriously believe that calling the director when dummy has played, of his own accord, a singleton on the opening lead, well there is no law against it.If you have a problem with my ruling, we can discuss that. As for the other, I'm not the one who suggested calling the TD, PhilG007 was, so if you have a problem with that idea talk to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 "Bid up partner" after the defence have butchered 3 tricks and a couple of finesses have worked to allow you to make a partscore with a lot of overtricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 I would never say it then. And on BBO, I don't appreciate when an opponent writes "wdp" when we gave them a gift.95% of BBO users think that "wdp" is shorthand for "I just wanted to let you know that I didn't fall asleep or get a drink, and noticed that you made the contract, partner". 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32519 Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Everytime an opponent opens 2♣ (22+ HCP), before it can be alerted, "Is that a transfer bid to 2♦?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Partner opens 4H. Alert! Game-forcing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 This and other "directions" to declarer, while they mean no harm, should be carefully avoided.They're not "directions", it's a rhetorical way of saying "I hope it's not too strong". No one could be so dense as to interpret it literally as instructions not to make too much; maybe the tone of voice didn't translate to the forum well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 They're not "directions", it's a rhetorical way of saying "I hope it's not too strong". No one could be so dense as to interpret it literally as instructions not to make too much; maybe the tone of voice didn't translate to the forum well.That is not the point. The rhetorical statement would not be taken literally in the sense you say. It might be a wake-up to Declarer, however, that the contract is a conservative one possibly against the field ---which might affect Declarer's play. But, I already said that; and it might just be why I put "directions" in quotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Partner opens 4H. Alert! Game-forcing.No, no, "Transfer to spades" (by the opponents, of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 "We should have played together." (To LHO who had 5 trumps behind my 6-card suit as well as a number of highcards.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 "We should have played together." (To LHO who had 5 trumps behind my 6-card suit as well as a number of highcards.)See the OP (hence the word cliché). Another two that I do as dummy:(after mostly passing in an auction where everyone bid a lot and tabling a 12-count): "I probably have the strongest hand at the table."(this one is not very common but if I table dummy having four aces): "That's a lot of bidding from an aceless hand/a bunch of aceless hands." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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