lycier Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Unexpectedly, Spam are more and more rampant now, so it is time to take defensive action against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oof Arted Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 yup . playing with new windows 8 tablet which seems to like double posting Typical Blaming the Tools :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 I saw a documental about Denieal of service attacks and one of the first tools against them is to ban completelly traffic coming from a country where the spam is coming from, this is usually for a business that is not getting clients from where the attack is coming from, so this is not the perfect time to do it, but it is worth considering though. A maximum rate is also worth considering, if a login can't create on a day more posts than he has (+1) then it willl do the trick, so the spam could only create 1 spam the first day, you can delete it in 1 day, and ban it. It will hardly harm anyone. If you are a newcomer you will hardly want to make more than 1 post. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 I like the 10 hands minimum, but I'd prefer to see eligibility be permanent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 I like:Vampyr's suggestion to include a basic bridge quiz as part of BBO registration -- a few randomly chosen simple questions.Rain's suggestion of email confirmation.Hrothgar's suggestion: to require members to play some hands on BBO, before being allowed to postFluffy's suggrestion that members can make only one post on first login, two on the second, and so on -- allowing BBO to bar spammers before they really get going.Downgrading the killing of spammers from justifiable homicide to pest control :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Cutting a hand probably suffices for first offenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Maybe we're missing the obvious... We need to hire someone to cast a black magic spell to destroy the spammersIf only we could find someone with the requisite skills. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 The BBO registration form is a Flash app, not a normal web page.Good point. That renders my point moot.On the flip side, it means it'll be much easier for you guys to implement a quiz when registering. "Which card would win the trick" is probably enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted March 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 I like:Vampyr's suggestion to include a basic bridge quiz as part of BBO registration -- a few randomly chosen simple questions.Rain's suggestion of email confirmation.Hrothgar's suggestion: to require members to play some hands on BBO, before being allowed to postFluffy's suggrestion that members can make only one post on first login, two on the second, and so on -- allowing BBO to bar spammers before they really get going.Downgrading the killing of spammers from justifiable homicide to pest control :) I think that we would lose a lot of people if posters were required to play on BBO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 I would favor a requirement that posters need to play a certain number of boards over the last 6 monthsNothing that large (say, 10 or so would suffice) I'd like to see this requirement applied to existing accounts as well as new ones.I am one of the people that Helene is talking about. A long, very long time ago, I used to play a reasonable amount on BBO. As I got a family, there were things in life that are more important than playing bridge on BBO. I got selective, I want high quality bridge, and as a result I don't play very often: Once or twice a month at the strongest club within a 45 minutes drive, and once or twice per year, I play a relatively high level national competition for "real bridge". However, I do want to keep up with the latest developments in bridge, and I do have opinions (one of my weaker sides, I know). BBF is ideal for these last two. I wouldn't want to miss it. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted April 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Christ they just keep changing their usernames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32519 Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 You need the computer geeks to pick up the IP address of the spammers, and then block it. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I'm beginning to think the messages might be fake. No one could have extensive knowledge of all of the (otherwise completely reputable/plausible) advertised skills. Black magic and statistical analysis of the lottery numbers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 As an immediate work around, at least limit new topics by a user registered today to one every couple of minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I can't believe someone somewhere has to actually type out this rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Today pawan51 posted 200 spam in total in a few hours,and dyaramji posted 6 spam.Really don't have a way to stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 You need the computer geeks to pick up the IP address of the spammers, and then block it. Problem solved.He keeps changing his IP, too. He's probably either using proxies or hijacked PCs. We've decided to throw in the towel and shut down the forums. We'll be migrating all the content over to Bridge Losers. April Fool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 So how did you do it in the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 We added a check that the account is at least N days old and has had at least N BBO logins. This does mean that a new player won't be able to post requests for help in the forum. They can send email to support instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Maybe restrict posting for forums besides the BBO support forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 We added a check that the account is at least N days old and has had at least N BBO logins. This does mean that a new player won't be able to post requests for help in the forum. They can send email to support instead. If this is the bbo official decision, I want to discuss with you.1- May I request the exception are chinese forums and BBO Juniors(temporary),nowadays many chinese players never open bbf,and I had provided bbf links to my Taiwan and Moscow friends,they told me they can't open bbf even though they rarely care about bbf.2- Spam happened mainly on "English" bbf,maybe it make no sense on chinese forums.3- This advantage is to help chinese players and school students as far as possible. Would you please consider.Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 We're blocking at login time, so it doesn't know what forum you're planning on going to. The forum software provides a hook to allow us to provide our own login authentication method -- that's how we allow users to use their regular BBO username and password. But once they're logged in, all privileges are based on the forum user groups (Members, Advanced Members, etc.), there doesn't seem to be a way to make this look at an external database. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 once they're logged in, all privileges are based on the forum user groupsIs it possible to assign users with less than N BBO logins / K days to a different user group that only has permissions for some of the forums? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Is it possible to assign users with less than N BBO logins / K days to a different user group that only has permissions for some of the forums?We can do this based on forum logins or days since forum registration, but not based on BBO logins as far as I can tell. Another available option for this group is to limit the number of posts per day. I'm trying to come up with the best setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 But if I want to get black magic assistance, who'd you gnna call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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