Oof Arted Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 From what I remember of the report of this, didn't he grab the microphone to harangue the directing staff about a ruling/appeal he'd been given ? That would be a ban in the UK I'm sure. How very very true :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 What do your tax laws say on donations tax?1. Deductibility for tax purposes, irrespective of whether the doner is a corporate or a private individual?2. The taxing of the donation in the hands of the recipient (what is the USA formula applied here?)Please don't answer this tangent, this is totally off-topic for this forum. I brought up tax law just as an analogy -- actual discussion of taxes is inappropriate. If Art (or anyone else) wishes to help 32519 with his taxes, they may do so via a private message, not in the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Please don't answer this tangent, this is totally off-topic for this forum. I brought up tax law just as an analogy -- actual discussion of taxes is inappropriate. If Art (or anyone else) wishes to help 32519 with his taxes, they may do so via a private message, not in the forum.And with an appropriate retainer. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Yes, he stated the ruling against him had been so appalling he intended never again to play in a tournament with any of these TDs directing.sounds like a jerk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Yes, he stated the ruling against him had been so appalling he intended never again to play in a tournament with any of these TDs directing. When we talked about this incident in Germany, noone had much hope that he really intended to stay away from this tournements, but somehow his words are getting true now. Thanks to Eddie and the WBF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 What I don't get is why did they use the cough system in Bali if they have been succesful many years in cheating, I cannot believe they have got away with the obvious tray signals and coughing all this years. They had to change to that, perhaps because there were screens, or because their older code was cracked, of because they couldn't get hand records, we will never know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted April 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 What I don't get is why did they use the cough system in Bali if they have been succesful many years in cheating, I cannot believe they have got away with the obvious tray signals and coughing all this years. They had to change to that, perhaps because there were screens, or because their older code was cracked, of because they couldn't get hand records, we will never know.Yes, this is a bit in line with Ken Rexford's first post. Like B-L signalling a 3-card suit by putting three fingers on the arm. If you are a good cheater and you take pleasure from developing artificial bidding systems, surely you could come up with a code that was more difficult to crack. Could it be that ... .... cheating codes evolve in a way similar to that of a language, without anybody making conscious design decisions? Sounds bizare? .... cheaters are psychopaths who simply can't imagine that anyone would ever be close to catching them? .... in the B-L case it might have been improvised without any formal code, but that seems unlikely in the E-W case .... neither B-L nor E-W were cheating, it is just that if their coughing/fingerpatterns by statistical fluke happen to coincide with something, it gets noted? .... inverse psychology, like the "idiot coup" in defensive play: they plan on using the defense that "no real cheater could be that stupid"? B-L actually used that defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 .... neither B-L nor E-W were cheating, it is just that if there coughing/fingerpatterns by statistical fluke happen to coincide with something, it gets noted? You could code coughing patterns to convey any feature (Vinje parity, HCP, Aces, Keycards, Losers, Quick tricks, Lengths, Shortages, Leads...) This could be encrypted in many ways (by board number, by some bid or play in the previous deal, or by a list of numbers like world-lengths in a memorised poem...). It's relatively easy to find a plausible historical correlation. Hrothgar tells us, however, that later observations at the Cavendish showed that the Doctors' future coughing pattern was predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Were the coughing pattern in session 5 of the finals also predictable? And from what (testable and refutable?) hypothesis? I refer you to these YouTube videos (that I guess most of you have already at least skimmed through): "2013 Bali USA GER v2", featuring boards 1-2"2013 Bali USA GER v4", featuring boards 5-10 and the first minutes of board 11"2013 Bali USA GER v3", featuring boards 12-16 and roughly the remaining part of board 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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