whereagles Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Here's the idea: why not define Drury as 2♦, instead of 2♣? The reasoning is the following: since a 2♣ opening is a strong bid and 2♦ a weak one, it's more likely that you'll have a hand that wants to bid pass-1M-2♣ as natural. The range of hands that would want to bid pass-1M-2♦ as natural is narrower because with some of them, you'd have opened 2♦. Example: with, say, ♠ KJx♥ xx♦ KQTxxx♣ xx you'd would simply open 2♦, whereas with ♠ KJx♥ xx♦ xx♣ KQTxxx you'd pass for lack of a weak 2♣ opening. If bidding goes You PardPass 1♥?? you'd now have a perfect 2♣ bid, if it were natural. So the proposal is to use 2♦ as Drury. Since it is done with a diamond bid, I nicked it "golden Drury". Disadvantages? You lose the standard 2♦ rebid over Drury (pass-1M-2♣-2♦) to indicate a reasonable minimum, opener. But to be honest, I can't remember the last time that bid made a difference for me.. lol. Anyway. just a small idea. I don't know if this is original or not, but if it is, remember you heard it first here :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 someone else on the forum, can't remember who, already does this. personally i value my 2d retry over 2c too much because i open soundly and bid drury aggressively so it's got a wide range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgillispie Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Here's the idea: why not define Drury as 2♦, instead of 2♣? The reasoning is the following: since a 2♣ opening is a strong bid and 2♦ a weak one, it's more likely that you'll have a hand that wants to bid pass-1M-2♣ as natural. The range of hands that would want to bid pass-1M-2♦ as natural is narrower because with some of them, you'd have opened 2♦. Example: with, say, ♠ KJx♥ xx♦ KQTxxx♣ xx you'd would simply open 2♦, whereas with ♠ KJx♥ xx♦ xx♣ KQTxxx you'd pass for lack of a weak 2♣ opening. If bidding goes You PardPass 1♥?? you'd now have a perfect 2♣ bid, if it were natural. So the proposal is to use 2♦ as Drury. Since it is done with a diamond bid, I nicked it "golden Drury". Disadvantages? You lose the standard 2♦ rebid over Drury (pass-1M-2♣-2♦) to indicate a reasonable minimum, opener. But to be honest, I can't remember the last time that bid made a difference for me.. lol. Anyway. just a small idea. I don't know if this is original or not, but if it is, remember you heard it first here :) I have always liked the idea of 1H-2C Drury and 1S-2D Drury. Next step shows an opening hand. With hands that have the minor suits taken up by the Drury bids, use 1N Forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 I've been playing the following, which I (semi-jokingly, but sort of accurately) call reverse reverse 3-way drury 2♣ = 4 card raise, not total junk (so like 6-12ish)2♦ = 3 card limit2M = 3 card <limit After 2♣, 2♦ is an artificial ask/try. Responder bids 2M with the lower range (6-bad 9) and anything else shows a good 9+, and is basically natural/game try style. (NB: This includes p-1♠-2♣-2♦-2♥!) Hands that want to play 2♣ get to bid 1NT, and play it like a real bridge player - especially at MP 2♣ is not a spot I basically ever want to be in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 I don't play drurygiven your op I bid my long minor no problem yet. if you pass you limited your hand OP shows maximum passed hands..so be it If you pass then: third seat opens light4th seat opens sound. People focus on opening hand...not your passed hand lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Here's the idea: why not define Drury as 2♦, instead of 2♣?A bunch of people play this, and it has been written about before (Mike Massimilla, Three Method Twists, March 2000 Bridge World). For example it was part of the system that my wife and I played (even before the article), and 2♦ as Drury was still on in competition when available. More fun was Pass-Pass-1♠-Pass-2♣, and now there was a pause waiting for the alert that never comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Elianna came up with this a decade ago, so you're a bit behind the times. It's been discussed on the forums before too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Ok. Thx all. I also thought it was a bit too obvious to be original :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 I thought for sure that this was thread would have something to do with S&M invites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 I thought for sure that this was thread would have something to do with S&M invites.Is anyone else picturing agua chained up in a dungeon and Ken standing over him with a whip? No? Perhaps the other way around then. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Is anyone else picturing agua chained up in a dungeon and Ken standing over him with a whip? No? Perhaps the other way around then. :oDon't you need a foursome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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