Fluffy Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Here is the hand. http://www.bridgegod.com/playprob.php?probid=215 (modified to make defence stronger) If you don't wanna miss the play problem like my last one, where a reasonable lead spoiled it, you may want to read this tip for the bidding: The problem hapens only if you end up in 4♠ I don't really know if the line that I though was actually best, because I was kibitzing so maybe I was biased, please feel free to comment on it, you can see the diagram on the next spoiler tag: [hv=pc=n&s=sak643hkq9dak63c5&n=sq2ha842djt942c83&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1sp1np3dp3sp4sppp]266|200[/hv] Defence starts with 2 rounds of clubs ♣K + low to the ace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Should prob specify teams. if you pitch a diamond on the second club, it becomes trivial if as happened to me, the defence plays a third club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I didn't notice the forum and made using the straightforward line. Were spades supposed to break 5-1 or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Does this belong in the "expert" forum?No expert should miss this at the table Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGF_Flame Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 nice hand. so what is the best line here ? my line is ruff, A♦,Q♠,diamond to the K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 nice hand. so what is the best line here ? you need to keep control, so you lead a small diamond while there is still a small trump on the table to take care of another club, you can afford to lose a club, Q♦ and a trump whether by length or ruff, what you did is fine (and added after I originally posted) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Ruff the club, ♦A, spade to queen, and then finesse diamonds if RHO follows. If you lose to doubleton queen, you need 4-2 trumps. If LHO ruffs, you still need 4-2 trumps, but also make if LHO started with 5 trumps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Thank you for an interesting and instructive problem, Fluffy. An inferior line succeeded on Fluffy's website; but now I prefer the line:Ruff the second ♣. Cross to ♠Q. Run ♦J. The main danger is that LHO, holding four trumps and ♦Qxx, wins and leads a second round of ♦, giving RHO a ruff with a doubleton trump; but otherwise prospects are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 you need to keep control, so you lead a small diamond while there is still a small trump on the table to take care of another club, you can afford to lose a club, Q♦ and a trump whether by length or ruff, what you did is fine (and added after I originally posted) What if spades break 5-1? Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 There are several ways to make this hand, but the one I had in mind is called Triunfo Centinela ("sentinel triumph" or guard) in spannish, keeping a triumph in dummy for control. Does it have a name in english? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Thank you for an interesting and instructive problem, Fluffy. An inferior line succeeded on Fluffy's website; but now I prefer the line:Ruff the second ♣. Cross to ♠Q. Run ♦J. The main danger is that LHO, holding four trumps and ♦Qxxx, wins and leads a second round of ♦, giving RHO a ruff with a doubleton trump; but otherwise prospects are good. I doubt that. Where I play few would pass 1NT not vulnerable, holding 11 cards in clubs and hearts, presumably the club ace and a void in diamonds. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 you need to keep control, so you lead a small diamond while there is still a small trump on the table to take care of another club, you can afford to lose a club, Q♦ and a trump whether by length or ruff, what you did is fine (and added after I originally posted) That makes on the layout but is not the best line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 That makes on the layout but is not the best line. I wasn't really explicit enough about how I did it, but yes the diamond should be ducked/finessed from dummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I'm in 6D failing as DQ is offside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Thank you for an interesting and instructive problem, Fluffy. An inferior line succeeded on Fluffy's website; but now I prefer the line:Ruff the second ♣. Cross to ♠Q. Run ♦J. The main danger is that LHO, holding four trumps and ♦Qxx, wins and leads a second round of ♦, giving RHO a ruff with a doubleton trump; but otherwise prospects are good. Cash a high diamond first (maybe you'll drop a singleton queen), then finesse in diamonds. If RHO ruffs the 2nd diamond, it was a loser anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Cash a high diamond first (maybe you'll drop a singleton queen), then finesse in diamonds. If RHO ruffs the 2nd diamond, it was a loser anyways. A small singleton with LHO is three times more likely than the Q. But that's a quibble. Johnu's line seems safer, since it caters for the case where RHO has two ♠ and one ♦ :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 What do people feel is the best line at matchpoints ? You'd feel a bit silly if all the palookas made 12 with the defence holding mirrored 3325s and the Q♦ offside and you only made 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 The field could be in 3NT or 5♦ so making is better. And also finesse is almost equal to drop, so you are not giving away really anything for safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uday Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 what's wrong w/pitching a Diamond on the second club ? Superficially, looks like that will then make if spades are 3-3, or spades are no worse than 4-2 with either hearts breaking, the diamonds coming home, the H JT dropping, or the hand with long hearts being squeezed in diamonds/hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 what's wrong w/pitching a Diamond on the second club ? Superficially, looks like that will then make if spades are 3-3, or spades are no worse than 4-2 with either hearts breaking, the diamonds coming home, the H JT dropping, or the hand with long hearts being squeezed in diamonds/heartsWhat is wrong with this line is that there is one, which offers all these chances plus some additional ones. If you see a good move check whether there is better one. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 There are several ways to make this hand, but the one I had in mind is called Triunfo Centinela ("sentinel triumph" or guard) in spannish, keeping a triumph in dummy for control. Does it have a name in english? I don't know an equivalent. The nearest I can think of are keeping trump control or protecting against the force. Perhaps we should add Fluffy's trump sentinel to our bridge-idiom vocabulary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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