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If you cannot make 6d it is almost assuredly

because p made a crummy TOX. We do not have the

space to hunt around for 7 and since we have

already shown the red suits p can convert our

6d to 6h. On rare occasion 6d will have no play

but it is a reasonable gamble given the (highly

weird) bidding). There is also a very good chance

the opps will bid 6s (as a sac) so at least we

will get a decent sized penalty.

 

If I was 100% certain my p would take a 4n

bid as regular blackwood I would use it rather

than guessing 6d.

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If you cannot make 6d it is almost assuredly

because p made a crummy TOX.

 

Isn't it obvious that pd made a crummy TOX ?

 

Lets assume for the sake of argument that both EW are fooling. 1 of them opened with 9 count and other one responded with 7 count =16 + we hold 14 =30

 

We are looking at MOST 10 hcp held by pd. Probably less than that, unless E or W is fooling much more than we predict. OTOH, a lot of things do not add up here. If pd has such a weak hand, he should be at least have perfect or close to perfect TOX shape, hence short spades. Even opener has 8 spades, which i doubt for his bidding, and responder has 2 of them and i hold 1, that leaves pd with at least 2 spades.

 

I think E is fooling around not only with the hcps but also the club suit.

 

4 NT is longer diamonds in my world, it may even help pd to be the declarer which is good for us due to holding.. That is what i would bid. and i have no idea what to bid over 5/. Pd may have something like Qx Axxx Jxx KQxx and we have no slam and we can perhaps make 5 if splits friendly. I admit that jumping to slam may end up defending 6 doubled, because i believe they have too many spades, in order to justify the TOX of 1 with minimal values by pd.

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Assuming that I've already shown 4 hearts with my double I'm bidding 5 as I have 6 and a quality suit, whereas I play 4nt as still competing but doubt as to which suit so maybe 44 (though why I'd want to go on I don't know?) but most likely 4 & 5.

 

I suspect that east has a 4 pre-empt and was just muddying the waters hoping to by it with 4.

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I'm bidding 5 . 6 might be there, but there's no way to know if partner has exactly the right cards.

 

I agree with all that think East is operating. West's 3 bid might be based more on playing tricks than HCP, maybe something like AKJ109xx xxx - Kxx.

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I (or my partner) could hold x Axxx xxxx KQJx for the initial double. But that doesn't stop me from bidding 6.

 

Edit: The fact that 2 was forcing makes it even more likely that RHO is messing around with lots of spades and nothing else.

 

Rik

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don't see how pard can have less than:

 

xx...AJxx...xxx...Axxx

You would not double with x AJxx Jxxx KQJx? 4NT seems like a good start. Most likely we will not be able to bid this scientifically but there is little harm in at least trying. As an aside, what would an initial 2 advance have shown? Perhaps showing a strong hand the first time and then hearts with longer diamonds the second would help involve partner in the decision.

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