gogo2711 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 You are in third position, nonvul vs vul with Axx AQ9xxxx xx x. bidding is p 1♣ ? I´m interested in both MP and IMP scoring, and have no clear idea on what to bid with this hand. 4♥ might be too much since we have 2 aces, reasonably 2 def tricks, but i want to show my heart length, and 3♥ seems like an underbid. if i bid 1♥ i didn´t do any preempt damage so they´re free to find any fit they want. I´m leaning towards 3♥ for now but would like to hear some opinions. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Although partner has passed I am not about to bid 3H with a hand this good. IMO anything other than 1H is a poor choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Depending on opponents, state of the match, and form of scoring, I might bid 3 or 4 hearts. But I wouldn't pretend anything except 1H is a normal action on the hand. The statement that you have no clear idea what to bid suggests that involving partner is a good thing to do. The fact that you have reasonable defence suggests that preempting is not particularly necessary. And the fact that you have a good hand suggests that you might be more successful with a constructive approach than an obstructive one here, opening bid notwithstanding. In most cases I'm not prepared to guess at the contract at this point, and that is essentially what you are doing when preempting. So just overcall and see what happens next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I will bid 4♥. I feel like when preempting 4M is reasonable, it is almost always the best choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I will bid 4♥. I feel like when preempting 4M is reasonable, it is almost always the best choice. I took it for real when you said a couple of years ago that your data greatly supported preempting to 4M was very good with 10-15 HCP hands or so. Maybe I am being unlucky, but let me tell you tha tit is working extremely badly for me on Match points, weak fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 You are in third position, nonvul vs vul with♠ A x x ♥ A Q 9 x x x x ♦ x x ♣ x.p 1♣ ?I´m interested in both MP and IMP scoring, and have no clear idea on what to bid with this hand. 4♥ might be too much since we have 2 aces, reasonably 2 def tricks, but i want to show my heart length, and 3♥ seems like an underbid. if i bid 1♥ i didn´t do any preempt damage so they´re free to find any fit they want. I´m leaning towards 3♥ for now but would like to hear some opinions. IMO 4♥ = 10, 1♥ = 9, 3♥ = 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetb Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 The one bid I want to make is 2♥. Of course, I play Pass - (1x) - any jump shift in 3rd or 4th seat here as Intermediate, so I would be showing 10-15 HCP, 6-7 Hearts, and a pretty good suit. If I were opening the hand, I would follow awm's advise and open 4♥. As an overcall, I think 3♥ might work out better here. However, I think I will make the bid most other tables will make - 1♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 What's the 1♣ side's opening 1NT range? Assuming 15-17, if I had better hearts, I would consider 4♥, but with a ragged suit for a 4 level preempt with 2 aces for defense, I'll bid 1♥. 3♥ isn't a possibility for me. With 2 aces, I'm not very worried about a club game and can outbid partials in hearts, and looking at 3 spades to the ace and a singleton, it looks like the possibility of a good defensive hand against a potential spade contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 I would bid 1 or 4. The in-between bids are poor imo.At this vul, 4 looks right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 I took it for real when you said a couple of years ago that your data greatly supported preempting to 4M was very good with 10-15 HCP hands or so. Maybe I am being unlucky, but let me tell you tha tit is working extremely badly for me on Match points, weak fields. I am also a big believer of what AWM said about 4M openings back then. But why would you do anything other than textbook bids in a weak field and MP anyway ? Opening 4M preempts are some sort of gamble with very good odds, but why would you gamble even with good odds in a game where you are the top dog and you are likely to score very well in most of the boards w/o doing anything fancy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 [NAE]4♥ for me is clear. If partner had not passed then the decision would be harder (and probably then only 1♥). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 +1 for 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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