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7 level decision


MinorKid

SAYC 1D Opening  

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  1. 1. What to bid as south ?

    • Pass
      0
    • Pass (Forcing)
      0
    • X for Penalty
      9
    • X for Takeout (e.g. Negative x)
      2
    • 6NT
      0
    • 7C
      0
    • 7D
      7
    • 7NT
      0
  2. 2. What do you expect the % of sucess of a fitted 7 level suited contract by North?

    • 0%~20%
      0
    • 20%~40%
      1
    • 40%~60%
      0
    • 60%~80%
      0
    • 80%~100%
      0
  3. 3. What do you expect the % of sucess of a fitted 7 level suited contract by South?

    • 0%~20%
      0
    • 20%~40%
      1
    • 40%~60%
      0
    • 60%~80%
      0
    • 80%~100%
      0


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I have been reading for decades how we should all be playing

negative doubles through 7s and before us we finally have a

prime example of how effective such a strategy can be. So if

my p and I are playing playing neg x thru at least 6s I have

a perfect x here yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

and I will not have to worry about what to do with this dilemma

again for another 15 years or so.

 

Practically speaking I think it is highly preferable for x

here to mean 1 probable defensive trick and expecting the opening

bidder to produce another (that's right ultra light openers

beware). Pass merely means I expect to not supply even 1 defensive

trick and it is definitely not forcing since I would pass with

xx xxxx xxx xxxx and xx QJx QJxx xxxx though you might be able to

convince me to x with the second hand.

 

On this hand I x and hope against hope we cannot make something at

the 7 level (remember 7s is still available for a sac) so the most we

are missing out (assuming we set it) is 300 for setting 7 instead of 6

not horrific by any means but if we blow an 800 set in favor of going

down in 7 ouchies-----------------------------------------------------

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[hv=pc=n&s=shaqj5dkt52cak532&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=p1d6s?]133|200| IMO 7 = 10, Pass = 9, Double = 7. Pass is non-forcing :) Double is penalty :) I wouldn't double 7. You may imagine you're playing high-stake poker but, at teams, unless RHO is a John Collings clone, his bid is unlikely to be a flight of fancy because (on a different hand) he won't relish explaining to team-mates why he conceded 200 or 500 in 6X when East made 4 in the other room with no profitable sacrifice for NS. IMO You should trust him to be within a trick of 6. Vulnerable, he might have 12 headed by the A. Or you may have a defensive accident. Anyway, Granny says "When in doubt bid one more."[/hv]
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If you double, preempter has AQJ-twelfth and out: -1660, or -1860 if you miscount on the pseudosqueeze :-) Or maybe even AQJ-tenth (as I saw last tournament), and 7 makes, and 6 goes for 500.

 

Having said that, I'm doubling "for takeout", quite certain that it's not likely to be taken out.

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