eagles123 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 [hv=pc=n&s=sq842hdqj5caqj962&w=sa73hak54dkt7c743&n=skj965ht73d9843c8&e=sthqj9862da62ckt5&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=1n(12-14)p2d3c]399|300[/hv] how can we get to 4H by E here? thanks, Eagles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 IMO W should just bid 3♥, trump fit could hardly be better and even if E has garbage it shouldn't be a complete disaster. E then has an easy raise to game. If you're going to play weak NT you have to be prepared to go for an area code at the 3 level once in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Hi, that's exactly what happened and we got to 4H by W but obviously it's much better if East declares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 File Under: If the game was that easy, we wouldn't play it. Seriously, s--t happens. Not a hand worth obsessing over imo. At my table the W hand would probably be opened a strong NT and east would texas with 4♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 west can bid 3d. obviously that shows a heart fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Opposite a weak no trump, I would jump to 4♥ immediately. There's no particular reason to get opener to play it, and they may have a profitable spot in 4♠ (as here). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Any bid by West should show a ♥-fit. => IMO West should bid 3♦ with nothing to protect in ♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Over 3♣, I like 3♦ = heart fit + max and 3♥ = heart fit + min. That right sides it here but it is pretty random. Probably better is simply to start at the 4 level. Again there is the random effect of a natural 4♥ being great and getting to 4♥ via Texas being not so great. At least this way has kept them out though and on another hand that might result in their not finding the killing lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I play South African Texas over weak NT, so I can decide (at round 1) who gets to be declarer in 4♥. It's a little aggressive, but I'd probably do it; and I'd probably make me declarer (with the king to protect and hide how skinny it is). But I've seen all 4 hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 texas transfers are a valuable tool when it comes to possible slamevaluation. I will let you look it up. The point being the east handhas zero reason to be messing around with a normal jacoby sequence and should have begun with a 4d bid immediately and this problem wouldnever seen the light of day (thank goodness it was a 3c bid and not a 2s bid from which your side probably never recovers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oof Arted Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 How about a good 'Old' Fashioned 3♥ (have you got 3 or more Hearts P if so bid 4♥ else bid 3 NT Or as Phil says Just bid 4♥ you know P has 2 ♥ at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 You don't say what form of scoring, of course 3N is cold from either side, prize if you can find that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 what's E dicking around for, there is no slam potential, there is only 1 possible contract, why let in a lead directional or sacrifice suggesting bid by S. Just bid 4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 what's E dicking around for, there is no slam potential, there is only 1 possible contract, why let in a lead directional or sacrifice suggesting bid by S. Just bid 4♥ I sort of agree with this but not entirely, yes you might have 12 tricks opposite say xxx, AKx, xx, AQxxx but you're not going to find this one, the only reason for not just bidding 4♥ was that you weren't intending to bid game, just raise to 3♥ which could be right particularly at pairs, if I bid 4♥ partner will have QJx, xx, KQJ, Axxxx and I might not even make 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhchung Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Opposite a weak no trump, I would jump to 4♥ immediately. There's no particular reason to get opener to play it, and they may have a profitable spot in 4♠ (as here). Boo Texas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Boo Texas! Texas like Smolen is a convention that's much more important in a strong NT context, nothing like so necessary opposite a weak NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 how can we get to 4H by E here?Quite easily if you take a sneak look at the hand copies before the event. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLow21 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 My question is how to get to 4♠ by NS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I sort of agree with this but not entirely, yes you might have 12 tricks opposite say xxx, AKx, xx, AQxxx but you're not going to find this one, the only reason for not just bidding 4♥ was that you weren't intending to bid game, just raise to 3♥ which could be right particularly at pairs, if I bid 4♥ partner will have QJx, xx, KQJ, Axxxx and I might not even make 3.4♥ will have some play opposite most weak NT. and if it doesn't its possible opp have 3♠ or 4♠ I don't personally play 3♥ as INV but is reasonable bid if I did. im interested what you do with a GF and 5+ ♥? which is what i do for 3♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 4♥ will have some play opposite most weak NT. and if it doesn't its possible opp have 3♠ or 4♠ I don't personally play 3♥ as INV but is reasonable bid if I did. im interested what you do with a GF and 5+ ♥? which is what i do for 3♥ GF and 5 hearts I rebid 3N (or new suit which is not GF at this point, but if I bid on over 3♥ it was a slam try), balanced slam invite I bid 4N (4♠ would ask KC) GF and 6+ I bid 4♥, slam invite we play a 3♠ rebid over both 1N-2♣-2♥ and 1N-2♦-2♥ as a slam try in ♥ saying nothing about ♠ if I don't have a second suit, I bid the second suit if I have one, 1N-2♦-2♥-2♠ is F1 for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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