Lord Molyb Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 [hv=pc=n&n=sqhatdk98654cqj93&d=w&v=n&b=12&a=p]133|200[/hv]2♦, 1♦, pass, or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Surely unanimous...surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 1D. You have an easy rebid, you have 12HCP, open the bidding.Depending on your weak two style, 2D may be ok, but 1D looks normal. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I would open 1♣ before I open 2♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 1D. You have an easy rebid, you have 12HCP, open the bidding.Depending on your weak two style, 2D may be ok, but 1D looks normal. With kind regardsMarloweEasiest 1♦ ever. 2♦is a NPAB (New Partner Asking Bid). 2nd seat vul is the worst seat to preempt in and this suit is awful and with 8 HCP outside of it and the hand is a 1♦ opener for many even if the Q♠ were the 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Easiest 1♦ ever. 2♦is a NPAB (New Partner Asking Bid). 2nd seat vul is the worst seat to preempt in and this suit is awful and with 8 HCP outside of it and the hand is a 1♦ opener for many even if the Q♠ were the 2. 2♦ means you forgot you weren't playing Fantunes that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 2♦ means you forgot you weren't playing Fantunes that night.Yeah LOL :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 My second choice is pass. Which there's a case for (although I wouldn't do it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 My second choice is 3♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 I'll pass this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Surely unanimous...surely. I'll pass this hand. http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 I'll pass this hand. Are you Al Roth's ghost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted February 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 This was a sanity check, I also opened 1♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 This was a sanity check, I also opened 1♦. So what's the story ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted February 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 So what's the story ?Bidding went 1♥ - 1♠ - P - 2♣* AP, partner had ♠Jxxxx ♥Qxx ♦Q ♣xxxx and you get +90If I opened 2♦ LHO overcalls 2♥, all pass for -140ish.If I pass the bidding goes 1♥ - P - 1NT - P or 2♦ - 2♥ AP for, again, -140 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 BS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 It's odd that they let you play in 2♣ with more than half the deck and an 8 card fit they'd already mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetb Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 I think he screwed the pooch when he posted the auction (he really opened 1♥?). I'll bet it went 1♦ - 1♠ ; 2♣ - All Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted February 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 I think he screwed the pooch when he posted the auction (he really opened 1♥?). I'll bet it went 1♦ - 1♠ ; 2♣ - All PassYes, but LHO overcalled 1♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 In this case of Vulnerability and second seat,I think the opener would better promise two quick tricks ,so I never open this hand , and pass . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I open all 12 point hands. 3 or 4 times a year I get a crappy 12 pt hand like this and open it anyways. this one isn't so bad a 6 card suit with a simple rebid.every time you pass partner has a crappy 10/11 he thinks he can't open and you miss a nice part-score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Well, it's too weak for K/S 1♦ call, but I might do it anyway (our agreement is that it could be an "overstrength preempt"). I could open it 1NT... It's a "WTP" EHAA 2♦ bid, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Very defensive hand. 1D seems fair here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 I chose other partially to keep the poll from being unanimous I admit but because our partnership agreements go a long way to deciding how I would handle this hand. 1D or PASS 1D looks easy but there are many problems with it. Rho passed so at this point Rho averagehand is around 6 plus our 12ish leaves 22 in the deck so splitting 11 each on AVERAGEthis is our hand for a part score. P's 11 gets a positional boost since on AVERAGE east willhave a better hand than west but my hand suffers almost the same positional disadvantage sinceonly the heart A is exempt. This is a ok hand to open at MP where the fight for part scores is dramatic. Even at MP we have the rather large downside of not having either major which makesour competitive ammo barrel half full at best. IMPS the risk vs reward tilts in favor of passingsince we do not really possess any of the main features for wanting to be in the bidding--1. we do not have a good lead director2. we lack the majors3. on average we can expect at best a part score PASS Pass is something hard for players to do for some reason. It is almost as if they think of the green card as moldy or something worse. The huge downside of opening these hands with smalldefensive potential is competitive bidding where our 1d opener gives our side an immediatedisadvantage because we are not really all that close to what p might expect defensively evenfrom a light opening bid. Another aspect of pass is that if p were to open 1h/s we have an easy 2d bid which caters not only to a possible misfit (our major shortness) but gets our values in while promising lessdefense. I favor pass myself but understand the human nature 1d bid. If we pass and our system does not allowus to bid 2d naturally (over p 1 h/s) than I would open 1D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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