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What do you lead, and is it a guess?  

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  1. 1. What do you lead, and is it a guess?

    • A spade, yes it is a guess
      2
    • A spade, no it is not a guess
      0
    • A heart, yes it is a guess
      1
    • A heart, no it is not a guess
      18
    • A Diamond, yes it is a guess
      1
    • A diamond, no it is not a guess
      0
    • A Club, yes it is a guess
      0
    • A club, no it is not a guess
      6

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fred

fred

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This is a Lightner double, isn't it? So partner is asking for dummy's first bid suit. And, if I'm wrong, I'll apologize to partner (again) :)

Agree (except that partner should be the one who apologizes to you if a heart lead is not what he wanted).

 

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cherdano

cherdano

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I am really surprised. I would have guessed that "Lead dummy's first bid suit (unless I doubled with a void and you can guess where it is)" is the standard meaning of a Lightner double. The club leaders seem to understand it as "lead something unusual".

 

Now that we have established that neither is standard, what do you think is more useful?

What would you lead without the double?

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cherdano

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heart lead seems obvious. No there is no inference about partner not Xing 5H (he wouldnt if he had AKxx and out for instance, they may XX and make)

Even worse, they might call the director, and you might not be allowed to lead a heart against 6NT because of the UI from the out-of-turn double...

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pclayton

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Its not a lightner double against 6N. I seriously doubt if partner is ruffing trick 1.

 

The auction sounds like a red herring to me. Whats 5♥? Is it an answer to blackwood accepting with a max? Or is it a suggestion of a strain?

 

Wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see pard with the ♥AK. And yes there are hands where they can run 12 tricks if we don't cash right away.

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junyi_zhu

junyi_zhu

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[hv=d=n&v=b&s=s9876h754dt875c64]133|100|Scoring: IMP

Pass - 1♣ - Pass - 1♥

Pass - 2N - Pass - 4NT

Pass - 5♥ - Pass - 6NT -

Dbl all pass...

 

What do you lead? [/hv]

If 5H is natural, heart lead would be the wrong lead because it doesn't make sense to me. Where would declarer's heart loser go? It is a lightner double and it asks for either S or D lead I believe. So it's still a guess, but not heart.

If 5H is answering RKC, then heart would be a possible lead. Still, you should make sure what 5H means before you lead.

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Winstonm

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Official Encyclopedia of Bridge (Lightner doubles): "The player who doubles expects to ruff the lead of a side suit mentioned by the opponents, or else win two top tricks in that suit."

 

[hv=n=skj9hkj98daq98c109&w=s5432h432d432c432&e=s10876haq106dj75c65&s=saqh75dk106cakqj87]399|300|A hand along this line is expected where without a heart lead twelve tricks are there for the taking.[/hv]

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