Zloty Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 [hv=pc=n&w=sat9876h2dq4c8752&n=skqj2h76dj5ckjt94&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=pp2h4dp5d]266|200[/hv] West leads 2 of ♥East wins with King of ♥ and plays As of ♥Which card west discards on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhchung Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 ruff, SA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 If declarer is 0472, we need partner to lead another heart, if 1471 or 2470 he is simply down. I will just discard whatever encourages the heart the most depending on what discards we are playing. I really don't think declarer will have less than 7 diamonds, and partner won't have 7 hearts being 3rd seat nv with a suit headed by AK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Although ♠A can do the trick, any card that says you don't want a spade should be clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhchung Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 If declarer is 0472, we need partner to lead another heart, if 1471 or 2470 he is simply down. I will just discard whatever encourages the heart the most depending on what discards we are playing. I really don't think declarer will have less than 7 diamonds, and partner won't have 7 hearts being 3rd seat nv with a suit headed by AK. oh right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Although ♠A can do the trick, any card that says you don't want a spade should be clear. Would you be happy if partner returns a club? Zloty usually posts double dummy puzzles or hands from bridge books or columns, and this looks like a sample hand. And in the sample hand, ♠A is the card that says don't expect any side suit tricks, I have a trump promotion if you lead a heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is a very old theme. The simple answer is that at imps or at rubber or total points one pitches the spade A. You cannot possibly have a stiff spade! Not only does that give S an impossible number of spades (clearly S is not playing roman/tartan jumps and has long diamonds) but if it were stiff, it is always going to score a trick. So this is a play that is sometimes referred to as an 'alarm-clock' signal...intended to wake partner up. This was almost certainly taken from some old book on defence because in the modern game, S's 4♦ would show spades and diamonds. Note that discouraging spades won't do the trick.....partner will think that we want a club more often than that we want a diamond. Picture S with Ax Qxx AKQxxxx x, or the same hcp but 2=3=6=2 shape. Now, that may seem like a bad example, and maybe it is, but hands taken from old books on play will often be based on auctions that look silly to modern eyes (and, yes, I see that there was a weak 2 involved, but they've been around for more than 50 years now). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLow21 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Discard A♠. If partner then leads a spade, throttle him! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zloty Posted February 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Best reply HighLow21 :) Cannot be more explicit to ask ♥ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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