fred Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Not a bug report, this, nor suggestion, but just a tip that might be useful to others, that I have discovered: Earlier I bemoaned the difficulty of replacing a card back into your hand without playing it, having already selected the card by touching it but not yet released, and having by then changed your mind about playing it. You can drag the card all over the screen, and if you are extremely precise and get lucky you can release the card in its original location and it remains unplayed. An easier, more reliable, dare I say foolproof method is to swipe the offending card completely off the side of the screen. I still think that it should be made easier to replace the card in its starting location, with less sensitivity, but this workaround helps in the meantime.You don't have to replace the card in its starting location. Just move the card a little of the way toward its starting location (if it came from the South position, move it downward, if it came from the North position, move it upward). When the card background changes color, it will be safe to release it without having to worry about it being played. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJNeill Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I love the new version - bigger display, better for kibitzing. Bigger buttons to review history or other table (it feels like). Iphone 4. Haven't tried playing yet. But the feel of it is improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42krunner Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Ditto on iPad 2. I use my iPad for 90% of my BBO play. The new interface just isn't good. It is very cartoonish, the chat is much to big as is the other information. The "play field" was much, much better in the old version. It has even taken some of the joy out of watching Sabine Auken play. :( Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42krunner Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Confess that I am kind of surprised at this. I would have thought that filling the screen with over-sized cards or bidding options (per most recent version) would make it harder to misclick. I know it is weird, but I have the same problem (iPad 2). Let's also be honest. I have to guess very little of the serious traffic to BBO is on a smart phone. While "clicking" is probably easier a phone, for some reason it is harder for me also on the ipad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42krunner Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 - The GIB bid descriptions, when holding down the bid, appear pretty far away from where you'd naturally look. Sometimes the won't come up at all for me. It gets stuck on "loading." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 You don't have to replace the card in its starting location. Just move the card a little of the way toward its starting location (if it came from the South position, move it downward, if it came from the North position, move it upward). When the card background changes color, it will be safe to release it without having to worry about it being played. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com I hadn’t noticed this before (obviously) but thanks, this helps a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Couple of requests: 1) Can we have a "Refresh (screen)" button in more places?I have seen it in at least one place, which is the "who is online" window, when dialed to "Kibitzers".But for me the most useful place would be at the point where I am reviewing open tables, with a view possibly to joining one of them. If you delay the choice, then click on a seat, it is often no longer available but the screen does not reflect that. If I clicked on refresh immediately before sitting I would be less likely to make a wasted attempt. But that would require a refresh button. You can sort of achieve it by alternating between full tables and open tables, which is a 2-click process, and inferior in my view. 2) When I enlarge the chat area, it also scales up the size of text within it so that the same text occupies the total chat area. Usually if I am enlarging the chat area it is not because I find the existing text too small to read but more likely because I want to see more text on the screen, before it scrolls off. I would hope to achieve this by enlarging the chat area but leaving the text size unchanged. OK, perhaps if I was playing on a small screen mobile phone I might feel differently, and maybe that is why you have designed it that way. In which case, so be it. The problem would be largely solved by enabling scrolling back to text that has disappeared off the top. OK, I know that you have been trying for that but encountered technical problems. I do hope that eventually you overcome them, because this would be a substantial benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 This is an inadequate bug report but mentioned in case anyone else experiences it. I ran a team match last night (using the web client). One of the players was using an iPad and on three occasions (during 16 boards) was unable to play the final card to a trick. In each case he was waiting for the third hand to play a card which I, as host, could see had been played. He was still able to chat to the table but needed to log out and back in again to play to the trick. I think the other players were a mix of web and Windows clients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42krunner Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I continue to have problems with 'delay' playing robot tournaments with the new version. Playing in the 25cent 8 board robo-dups, at least 50% of my tournmanets I will experience this. It is pretty annoying. This also makes Robot Races unplayable on the iPad. I know it is weird, but I find it MUCH easier to misclick on the new iPad app then the old one. Are there any 'fixes' planned? :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Are there any 'fixes' planned? :(We are working on a new version. Aside from a bunch of bug fixes, there will be some new features: - access to instant tournaments- player notes- option to make fonts on cards smaller If you explain what you mean by the "delay", I might be able to do something about it. Sorry if you explained that somewhere else already and I missed it. No promises, but I am hopeful that the new version will be available by the end of February. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42krunner Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Fred, you are the greatest. By delay I mean there is many times where robot takes 10+ seconds to play a card. There is never latency when I click on a card. It's really made the experience worse, so I really appreciate the team working on things. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Fred, you are the greatest. By delay I mean there is many times where robot takes 10+ seconds to play a card. There is never latency when I click on a card. It's really made the experience worse, so I really appreciate the team working on things. DanThanks for clarifying, Dan. Anyone else out there experiencing similar problems? I will try to figure out what is going on, but it would help if you could answer some questions: 1) When the robot is slow, do you have to do something (like tap the screen somewhere) in order to get it to play? Or will it eventually play if you just sit there and do nothing? 2) Have you noticed if there is any pattern? For example, maybe it only happens when the robot is on lead to a trick. 3) When convenient, please try anonymous play and let me know if you experience the same delays. 4) Please let me know what settings you have selected for pictures of cards, card animation, and autoplay singletons. Also let me know if you normally use your mobile device in portrait or landscape orientation when playing race events. 5) What sort of mobile device are you using? Please feel free to respond by e-mail (fred@bridgebase.com) if you prefer. Thanks for your help. Hopefully we will be able to get to the bottom of this... Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalK Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Thanks for the new version, I am quite comfortable with it. Just a couple of things 1. Chat - can't scroll. Guess it's been discussed elsewhere too2. When playing in a Club, can chat to Club. No option for this. S can't invite players who are kibitzing in the Club.3. The scores columns don't show + - tricks so when reviewing I can't see how many overtricks or otherwise.4. To log out, have to hit many back buttons 5. If I want to sub in a tourney, have to send a personal chat to host of that tourn, who is sometimes offline as TDs are conducting. Then have to look for TDs names and send them a private chat.6. Notes for friends can't be added in their profiles I see These are what I've noticed. And again, maybe there's something I am not using right. If someone could pls explain? The screen layout is nice. Thanks to Team BBO. Best wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I experience occasional bot slowness in the iPad app on anonymous play, but I had the same on 3.6 and previous versions too. Always thought it just means server load. If you wait long enough the bot eventually plays a card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 6. Notes for friends can't be added in their profiles I seeNotes are coming in the next version, as Fred said a couple of days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalK Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Hi Barmar, thx for the reply. With Fred and the Team looking into things I am sure very soon every single issue will be sorted out. Meanwhile, is it possible to send a chat message to Club when playing in a public/private club? It's a very useful feature that's missing or have I missed something out? Thanks for your help. Best wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdouglis Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 I just upgraded the other day. I agree with the many people who dislike the new format and especially with anyone who said they were misclicking. In my first mini I must have misplayed my intended card at least 3 times. I tried to slow down but it was force-of-habit. I'm not playing on my ipad until this is fixed, and the ipad was about 95% of my BBO play. (I like to play robot minis and watch tv at the same time. Now I'll have to just watch TV!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svs108 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Hi, Fred. Thanks for the great work on the mobile app. I have a small bug on the 3.72 Android version of the app on my Nexus 4. The app simply does not connect and times out with the scroller going round and round. I can only get the app to work by swiping it out from the recent apps list. Then it re-loads and works fine. But next time I go to the app, it does not work. This never happened prior to the upgrade. No biggie, I just swipe it out of memory whenever I need to use it, but it is inconvenient. Since you are in any event working on the update, please look into this bug also. TIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrick Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Notes are coming in the next version, as Fred said a couple of days ago. Talking of notes....it would be great if it supported hand-notes (same for BBO web version).Like http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?editor=y That's something I'd pay for.Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdouglis Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I just upgraded the other day. I agree with the many people who dislike the new format and especially with anyone who said they were misclicking. In my first mini I must have misplayed my intended card at least 3 times. I tried to slow down but it was force-of-habit. I'm not playing on my ipad until this is fixed, and the ipad was about 95% of my BBO play. (I like to play robot minis and watch tv at the same time. Now I'll have to just watch TV!) I made the mistake of trying again, thinking I would be careful enough. Sure enough, I managed to play a low card instead of a high one that would have cleared a suit, giving up several tricks and ensuring a bottom. I bailed out of the ACBL after the 3rd or 4th hand. With real money at stake to play in these, I'm astounded it could be this buggy, especially when it used to work just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I made the mistake of trying again, thinking I would be careful enough. Sure enough, I managed to play a low card instead of a high one that would have cleared a suit, giving up several tricks and ensuring a bottom. I bailed out of the ACBL after the 3rd or 4th hand. With real money at stake to play in these, I'm astounded it could be this buggy, especially when it used to work just fine. Is this purely an iPad problem? I cannot reproduce it in Android. And yet we are assured that they are effectively the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Have you tried using hand diagram mode instead of pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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