32519 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 From a club game:[hv=pc=n&s=sjt42ha852d5caj43&w=s53hj764dkj3c9875&n=sak976hkqtda872ck&e=sq8h93dqt964cqt62&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=ppp]399|300[/hv]2/17 tables bid a small slam, 0/17 tables bid the grand, all 17 tables made 13 tricks.Suggest an auction to at least get to a small slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 2/17 tables bid a small slam, 0/17 tables bid the grand, all 17 tables made 13 tricks.Suggest an auction to at least get to a small slam. Are you serious about the grand? Never want to be in grand on these cards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 P 1S2NT (max passed hand, 4 trumps, singleton somewhere) 3C (which singleton)3H (diamonds) 4NT (RKCB)5H (2, no Q) 6S Easy game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akwoo Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 7♠ should NOT be bid; it requires the spades to break 2-2 (even some 3-1 splits with singleton Q will cause problems) and is less than 50%. As a passed hand and especially in 2nd seat (since partner doesn't open light in 4th seat), south is worth a 4♦ splinter over a 1♠ opening. At that point, North already knows 6♠ must be odds-on; South can't have a singleton diamond, 4 spades, and 10 hcp outside diamonds without making 6♠ a good contract. North might as well bid 4N RKCB, because it's possible South has both aces and the Q♠ (or a 5th spade), on which North can count 13 tricks, but North should 6♠ over the 5♥ response. This is actually harder with West or North as dealer, because as a non-passed hand, South might consider 4♦ splinter a bit of an overbid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 This is actually harder with West or North as dealer, because as a non-passed hand, South might consider 4♦ splinter a bit of an overbid. I play splinters as 3 or 4 controls, so with four the South hand is fine. I think that such a space-comsuming bid should be tightly defined in terms of controls, not HCP. You're not going to make a thin slam with eg 12 points in queens and jacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 1S 4D 6S Seriously! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMan Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 In my partnership, South would open 1♥ and then support partner's spades, then *North* might splinter. RKC, 6. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 1S 4D 6S Seriously! Partner had Qxxxx, Axx, x, Axxx and you missed the laydown grand, at least blackwood first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 As has already been pointed out indirectly, 1♠ - 4♦; 4NT - 5♥; 6♠ is just fine. Or (strong club):- 1♣ = 15+ nat/bal or 18+ any... - 1♥ = 4+ spades, if bal or GF then 4+ hearts, GF1♠ = relay, usually 18+... - 1NT = 4+ hearts2♣ = relay... - 2♦ = bal or 3-suited2♥ = relay... - 2♠ = 44(23) or 44(41)2NT = relay... - 3♥ = 44143♠ = relay... - 3NT = min4♣ = relay... - 4NT = 4 controls, no spade control5NT = Q ask... - 6♣ = no ♣Q6♠ = NF Q ask... - P = no ♠Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 The South hand, which the HCP counters underrate, is the type of hand I would open in my sleep. After South opens I think there is no question that North-South will reach the spade slam.Bridge is not a game of gadgets. Judgement and hand evaluation rules. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 The South hand, which the HCP counters underrate, is the type of hand I would open in my sleep.The problem is not the hcp but rather the shape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 The problem is not the hcp but rather the shape.I have a singleton in a minor and both majors.Computer simulations also do not confirm that 4441 is a bad distribution.A priori chances for an eight card fit are 83% and for a nine card fit 34% I like those odds. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I splinter and keycard, discovering the ♠Q is missing, and end up in 6♠. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I splinter and keycard, discovering the ♠Q is missing, and end up in 6♠.Yes and WTP this is a basic auction. EDIT perhaps the problem is that some don't play splinters or some who opened don't understand how good opener's hand with Axxx is opposite a splinter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 EHAA: p-1♠3♦-4♦ (4=4=1=4, 10-12 - slam-interest cue)4NT-5♦ (I have all controls, this can't be bad - 0 or 3)5♥-5♠ (Q? - no)6♠ (can't have a slam try with zero) Anyone who gets to 7 needing to find the trump queen *and* some non-horrible breaks can take their +2210; I'll get it back on the next 3 grands they bid. Sure I'm cheating and pulling out a Cool Tool, but playing standard, I wouldn't hesitate to splinter on this one just like most of the above. How much more can partner need from a passed hand? Now, in third seat, when I have neither a guaranteed 9-card fit nor guaranteed more than half the high cards, this is a much more interesting question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humilities Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 To me, a 4D splinter is a no-brainer. 4th seat, schmorth seat, I'm going to game with 4 trump to the J10, a singleton, and 2 aces. North has an easy RKC bid over 4D splinter. Ofc we are not bidding seven off the Q of trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 p p p 1s 2c reverse drury 2d interested 4d splinter now less danger than directly over 1s why the rush? 4n rkc 5h 5n trump Q? 6s = no but p would say yes if they had 5 spades (knowing we had the AK) p don't want to be in this grand missing trump Q 9 card suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 p p p 1s 2c reverse drury 2d interested 4d splinter now less danger than directly over 1s why the rush? 4n rkc 5h 5n trump Q? 6s = no but p would say yes if they had 5 spades (knowing we had the AK) p don't want to be in this grand missing trump Q 9 card suit "4d splinter now less danger than directly over 1s why the rush?"No rush, but whu futz about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLow21 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 1S 4D 6S Seriously!I might intersperse a blackwood of some type, but yep :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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