manudude03 Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 I forgot to mention this one earlier. This was the first hand of the night (was a pretty interesting series of boards). [hv=pc=n&n=saj85hdaqt754ct98&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1dp1s2h4spp4np5hpp]133|200[/hv] Your call here? edit: hand corrected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Are you sure that you have given us the correct hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted January 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Oops, all those hearts are meant to be diamonds, will fix now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetb Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 I would double, but it would be takeout-ish with some defense. Partner should realize we have some shape, as does RHO. On a side note (and hoping not to get the thread off track or piss off OP), why do you think Man U is doing so poorly Wayne? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Out of curiosity, what was west bidding 4NT on (or maybe what was West on) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Out of curiosity, what was west bidding 4NT on (or maybe what was West on) ? Probably lots of hearts and 4 clubs, distinguishing from 5♣ which would show at least 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 PASS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 ok now that I don't have 6 of their suit to the AQT pass is obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 [hv=pc=n&n=saj85hdaqt754ct98&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1dp1s2h4spp4np5hpp]133|200| I forgot to mention this one earlier. This was the first hand of the night (was a pretty interesting series of boards). Your call here?[/hv]IMO Pass = 10, Double = 8, 5♠ = 7. Not confident -- because, for many pairs, there is an implication that partner's pass is forcing after we've constructively reached a vulnerable game. For some, there is even an agreement to that effect. If so, partner's pass shows willingness to compete further and, perhaps, we should go on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Full hand below: [hv=pc=n&s=st643hk98dkjck752&w=sk7hajt732d9caqj4&n=saj85hdaqt754ct98&e=sq92hq654d8632c63&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1dp1s2h4spp4np5hpp5sppp]399|300[/hv] North at the table bid 5S. This ended up going -4 after the ace of hearts lead, crossing over in diamonds and playing a spade to the 8. 5H is -1 with careful defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Leading dia A is the tuff part of this careful defense, but can be found. Not sure if i would lead it without 4 NT bid, now i may though, still not sure tbh. Ducking the ♠ K or jumping the ♠ A on ♠ 7 is the easy part, once you got the lead right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Full hand below: [hv=pc=n&s=st643hk98dkjck752&w=sk7hajt732d9caqj4&n=saj85hdaqt754ct98&e=sq92hq654d8632c63&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1dp1s2h4spp4np5hpp5sppp]399|300[/hv] North at the table bid 5S. This ended up going -4 after the ace of hearts lead, crossing over in diamonds and playing a spade to the 8. 5H is -1 with careful defense.There is a mistake in the auction, surely South doubled 5♥? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 No mistake on this hand, South did pass. The other tables result was 5HX-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 No mistake on this hand, South did pass. The other tables result was 5HX-2.That was a joke! (Making the point that South should double.) Anyway, the most important part about about this auction is to know whether you play pass as forcing. If you do, then I think North's 5♠ bid becomes very reasonable (and South's pass becomes horrible). If you don't, then South's pass is probably not best, and neither is North's 5♠ bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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