eagles123 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 [hv=pc=n&e=sat3hq64dat3cakq7&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=p1c4h]133|200[/hv] MP playing ACOL so 1C is 4+ N/S known for being a bit eccentric :lol: what now? Eagles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 no room for science. just bid what you think you can make. if i were you, i'd think i could make 6c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 I'd double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 X 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 at this vulnerability, double looks right. If partner removes, then I'm going slamming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 6♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfa1010 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Double, if partner can pass this takeoutish double I like my chances for a good MP score in 4♥X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpoa Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 We think 6♣ is best. Be The ♥ with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 MP playing ACOL so 1C is 4+ N/S known for being a bit eccentric :lol: what now? Eagles Strong or weak NT, opening which suit with 4-4 blacks and which suit with 4-4 minors ? My worry is that partner has ♥Kx and we're going off on a ruff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Double. It looks like partner has to have values in the other side suits for a 2nd seat opening bid. The question is "Does partner have the right cards and distribution for slam?". The answer to that question is not known with any certainty. So, take your positive. If partner shows an unwillingness to defend 4 ♥, then you can think about bidding on to slam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 why is double not unanimous? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Double, if partner can pass this takeoutish double I like my chances for a good MP score in 4♥X. I think double is right too. The problem with double is that partner will sometimes bid 4♠ when our best option was to defend 4♥ and moreover after 4♠ we are still not well placed to choose the level in clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Hopefully Partner notices the vulnerability as well. She won't be bidding 4S or anything else without some serious distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Full hand: [hv=pc=n&s=sj87652hjd9874c65&w=skq4h8dkqj5cj9432&n=s9hakt97532d62ct8&e=sat3hq64dat3cakq7]399|300[/hv] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 i should have said that i'm guessing you're playing pairs - you normally do. at imps, the difference between 920 and 800 isn't worth risking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Then, there might be: [hv=pc=n&s=s8642hjdj7542cj65&w=skqj5h7dkqtc98743&n=s93hakt98653d86ct&e=sat7hq42da93cakq2]399|300[/hv] Where it is 800 vs -50 Put one of the red Jacks over there, if you don't like the opening bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I would expect that the reason double isn't unanimous is that partner's got clubs or a strong NT, not clubs or a weak NT. I, too, would be concerned about ♥Kx, but that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 i should have said that i'm guessing you're playing pairs - you normally do. at imps, the difference between 920 and 800 isn't worth risking for. Yes, OP says MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 why is double not unanimous? I think expecting double to be unanimous here shows your lack of experience at bridge and especially at BBF.http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif I bid 6♣, i was right. That does not mean it is the correct bid just because it turned out to be. But unanimous DBL ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I bid 6♣, i was right. I would say that you weren't right, but rather, that it didn't matter. My partners dn't leave take out doubles with singleton on their suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I would say that you weren't right, but rather, that it didn't matter. My partners dn't leave take out doubles with singleton on their suit.At these colors, and with the given opening bid, removing the double of 4H isn't even close enough to be a L.A., IMO. Timo's slam blast is a much closer decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinorKid Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 It is a certain 6♣ immediately after 1♣.Disregarding the ♥Q you have 17HCP, -1 DP and at least +3 fit points gives you 19 TP.19 + >13 >= 32 Imagining partner hand assuming not counting ♥J for opening bid,6C is certain even through his hand is balanced. What it remain is that what kind of partner's hand worth a blast of 7♣. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 It is a certain 6♣ immediately after 1♣.Disregarding the ♥Q you have 17HCP, -1 DP and at least +3 fit points gives you 19 TP.19 + >13 >= 32 Imagining partner hand assuming not counting ♥J for opening bid,6C is certain even through his hand is balanced. What it remain is that what kind of partner's hand worth a blast of 7♣.Unless you read the constructions where opener has two hearts, or five small clubs promoting the JXX behind you. Any balanced opener is down off the top, when you see the 4H overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinorKid Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Unless you read the constructions where opener has two hearts, or five small clubs promoting the JXX behind you. Any balanced opener is down off the top, when you see the 4H overcall.The slam may go down when the combined value is exactly 32. But most of the time a slam is worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I would say that you weren't right, but rather, that it didn't matter. My partners dn't leave take out doubles with singleton on their suit. When i said i was right, i meant to say i was right for this hand, the continuation of my sentence proves that. Btw, i was joking about your experience, obviously, since you have more experience than me in BBF, I was surprised you expected unanimous decision in BBF when we did not have unanimous decisions for the hands much more clear than this one, in the past.http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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